All the muzzle loading kits I find donāt really interest me, or they are ungodly expensive
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Yeah, Iām into the latter market. Or was I should say. The cheapest blank (i.e. not engraved or decorated in any way) side-by-side 12-gauge sold by the gunmaker I used to work for was priced at 80,000 euros, and a good pair with custom engravings north of 200,000 euros.
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That has to be art at that price! Crazy.
It was.
You have no idea some of the crazy things our customers wanted us to do to these guns. But it was pocket money to those people. The most salient things I learned talking to rich people is, they donāt care how much it costs as long as 1/ they have it now (or not too far in the future), 2/ they have something nobody else has and 3/ they know itās been made by hand with sweat and blood and not by machines. Rich people are bored and are constantly on the lookout for stuff they can brag about at the country club to draw the admiration of their peers for 5 minutes, and they have no patience because theyāre used to reality bending around them by virtue of throwing wads of cash at people who get in their way.
It is a different world. Quite interesting to meet those people.
To give you an idea of the markup, it was a 12-person company and we sold 12 guns per year, and made a good living out of it.
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Iām tornā¦ obviously Iām mr āyay gunsā
But I kinda torn
The idea of someone pushing thru thick brush with something of that caliber is pretty terribleā¦ and doubtful it would ever even happen
But I also hate safe queens, with the exception of historic gunsā¦ that likely they had their timeā¦ and now theyāve earned the right to be a safe queen
Used to have customers ask the durability of an optic I recommended (something I make now ironically)
My response was to unload my personally carried firearm, turn it optic down and drop it on concrete
ā¦Iām not a classy bitch lol
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What do you mean? 12-gauge isnāt outrageous. We did make big fives also though 
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awesum stuf 
okey you did some intresting things
i work with heidenhain daily and with fedal basicly fanuc
what do you think of of ramminton 700 police ?
i have shot once with a holland & holland verry nice weapon
dont worry about rambling i know the feeling
what is your work shop like ?
always nice a product emerging from the smoke
and thats the almost finishd product
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I meant carrying the gun thru rough terrain and thick and abrasive foliageā¦ something tells me they wouldnāt
Specificallyā¦ āoh no that might scratch my hunting gunā is something that gives me Forest Whittaker eye
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I assume you mean Remington?
yes indeed haha
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Not much because I donāt know what the police version has that the Rem 700 doesnāt I do have a Rem 700 Etronx from way back when in my collection though: fantastic rifle. But I canāt find the ammo no more. Pity.
Right now very small, because I moved to Finland recently and I rent. When I find a house, Iāll equip it again properly. Right now I have a basic old Celtic 14 lathe, a old Bridgeport mill (in standard - grrr), drill press, grinding wheelā¦ the usual. And naturally an extensive and overpriced collection of Vallorbe files - the best files in the world man!
Whatās that for? Is it just me or your surfacing endmill seems to be chattering? Or maybe the crisscross pattern is on purpose? I canāt quite tell on the photo.
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Depends highly on the specific model and how itās equippedā¦ super non answer I know
Remington has literally hundreds of 700 variantsā¦
In general though, the stock is garbage and needs to go in the trash, and the trigger too, then you send the action out to get polished and tunedā¦
Itās kind of one of those things you have to replace most of it, and then you have a good rifleā¦
But there are nicer variants you only need to replace a few components lol
To be clear Iām not knocking it, it has been a staple of the industryā¦ itās just always been a project type gunā¦
Oh youād be quite wrong.
Hereās a story: one of our customers came to pick up their brand-spanking new rifle. We unroll the red carpet, the canapes, put the guyās countryās flag above the door, we lined up in his honorā¦ the whole nine yards. Then he goes on a hunt somewhere in Northern France.
A week later, he called back: āThe gun is crap! Itās only a week old and the barrel is all rusted out!ā Thatās unusualā¦ So after calming the guy down, my boss told him to bring the gun back before flying back to Fuckdakistan or wherever he came from.
So he drove back 350 km. When he arrived, he produced the gun case - unopened since the hunt. Turned out, he stored the gun after hunting in wetland without cleaning it or anything, all wet and shit, closed the case, threw it in the trunk and forgot about it. Duh!
So we explained he fucked up. āOkay my bad.ā he said. āHow much to fix it, and how fast can you do it?ā We told him weād have to manufacture a new pair of barrels, refit it to the action, bring the gun back to the proofhouse obviously, then get the engraver to recreate the engravings and - really hard - match it perfectly to the action. Best quote: 50,000.
āSure, do itā and he wrote the check right there and then, then bolted to the airport.
Like I said, money is no object to them. Only how fast they can have their toys.
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ah okey wel this is a picture of mine 
what kind of ammo did it take ?
ah thats some nice stuf though
i also have the manual stuf manual lathe and mill
i think every cnc machinest should firts learn manual before going cnc so you get the feeling
ive nevver heard of those files to be honest 
i dont know what it is for to be honest haha
but yeah the criss cross patern is on purpose
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dam i cant stand that people treat stuf like that even if its a ācheaperā gun
but that migt just be me
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The one I have is .221 Rem IIRC (itās in storage in another country, I canāt recall).
The Etronx system was an electric primer. The firing pin and action was replaced by an electric system. Pretty nice system, but the ammo wasnāt cheap - and the battery had a tendency to give up the ghost at the worst possible moment.
But I just love me oddball devices like that.
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i have heard of that but nevver seen it in real live
ive only seen a cartridge from theat from a friend who is a collector
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Thereās a line, Roscos customer definitely crossed it, but I wonāt baby something that doesnāt need it
I hate cleaning guns for the sake of cleaning guns, I know police departments that have destroyed rifles in under 2k rounds because they would shoot 20 round qualifiersā¦ then clean for 2 hours
My competition AR hasnāt been ācleanedā in 3+ yearsā¦ 2-5 thousand rounds thru itā¦ but it runs like a topā¦ certain guns like certain thingsā¦ ar15s specifically like to be wet but donāt give a shit about clean
I was trying to remember why that sounded familiarā¦ thatās definitely a fun oddball
i totataly agree with that but thare is big difference in caring for a gun and not cleaning every time and just neglet
i also dont clean my guns after every sesion only when i use corosive ammo
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