Good, I actually prefer small communities. Makes it more personal. Iām sure there are less than 10.000 people with rfid implants in the world 
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Can I just mention how incredibly unfortunate the logo with the initials is? 
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My first thought exactly 
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Good thing he wasnāt born in '88 too
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I genuinely wonder how many people wear implants in the world, all told. It canāt be very many, but I suspect itās probably more than 10,000.
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Oh, just implants? More then 10000 for sureā¦ Pacemakers, artifical joints, titanium plates, breast enchancement etc are all implants
Rfid on the other handā¦ canāt be much more than 10k I think. Of course I pulled this number out of thin air.
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I mean ārecreationalā electronic implants. Iām thinking more than 10,000 people because, well, the world is big, and I think a number of people went for an RFID chip for pure convenience purposes (access to work, nightclubsā¦) and donāt really give two shits about biohacking, or feel the need to yak about it on the internet.
He did it by himself hidden from his parents, and after 3 days he decided to tell them. Actually his parents already told him he wasnāt allowed to do it.
https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/news/pivot-magazine/2019-10-31-vivokey-implants
Kinda looking to more than 100,000 world wide. But very spread.
See the company biohax in Sweden managed to install 4000 chips on people and was enough to convince public transport to install readers, followed by all kinds of services. We need to get as much chips as we can installed in as much people as we can to appeal to bring more services.
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If I had been the parents, as a punishment, Iād have written an URL on the chip pointing to a domain name of his choosing that Iād I have control over, write-protect the chip, put a page up at that address that says āIām an assā with a picture of a donkey, and tell him heāll get the domain name when he turns 18.
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Not sure how tech savvy the parents are, but I like your ingenious.
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This is a difficult thingā¦
I had streetpunk-friends in my teenage years, all well below 18, and several of them decided to pierce themselves - of course, not a good idea, not safe, sane, consensual, not allowed (or even recognized) by their parents, not done by a pro. Yet, that was kinda āokayā for me, for they were already living on their own, had to cope with their everyday life without parents and all that, so they were far more mature than one would think, considering their age. I would never ever recommend that, but it was okay that they did it.
Now we have a teenager who claims to be a lot (programmer, biohacker, informedā¦), who makes a lot of noise about what heās willing to do, and yet nobody really knows why. This is definitely not okay for me, and I would be very surprised if any reputable pro would do the install. And the same goes for stupid stuff like shooting earlobes of girls as young as one or two years (additionally, those f*ing earlobe-pistols canāt be properly sterilized and do a lot of damage to the surrounding tissueā¦ sorry, have to rant on that topic 
), doing mods on immature minors at all, tattooing children with the beliefs of their parents or mutilating their bodies for the same reason. All stupid stuff.
And thatās why I have a little problem with things like
, for it sounds a lot too encouraging for me. He doesnāt seem to know much about biohacking at all, currently he rather behaves like he wants something ācoolā to brag about, to gain followers, whatever. Thatās not the spirit I associated with biohacking - Iām surely no pro on that field, still pretty new here, but it just feels wrong.
There was a lot of things I was ready to do - and did - at an early age. But my parents, being wise, put the brake on most of them. And if I had disobeyed, I can tell you Iād have had a good spanking.
Itās not a matter of whether youāre old or mature enough to decide to do something, itās a matter of whether you respect your parents enough to respect the law they lay down. Itās one thing to do something behind your parentsā back (rarely wise) and itās another to do something they explicitely forbade.
In a strange sense, Iām glad I started smoking at such a young age that my parents never had a chance to forbid it before I did, because had I started after, in full knowledge of, and contravening the interdiction, I donāt think I could live with myself, even today.
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Got to be honest my parents would have taken me to a doctor to get it removed.
Iād be furious if my kid did it behind my back.
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really? nazi jokes? ughā¦
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Godwinās law - and this belter of a thread is long overdue
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or we could stop being 5 years old forever and just be mature enough to not make such jokes, but i guess thatās asking too much.
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Boy, you sure are a grumpy bugger
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Absolutely agree and respect your point of view. But this world we live in is not ruled by one type of culture, or moral values based on personal traumas / experiences, religious or whatever reasoning we can get to impose our views on others.
Same way you donāt like ear piercing devices. Some might just completely reject the idea of body modification including implants on humans, since it goes against whatever believe they haveā¦ āour body is the temple of Godā, nature lovers. Some people are even against basic vaccinations, or wearing a face masks. And they have their āreasonsā just like everyone else.
I donāt mind a society where an old senile person or a new born gets a chip implant if thatās proves beneficial for humans.
They are actually easily removable. Better than cutting a piece of skin off out of a babyās weewee in the name of religion or poking holes in little girls ears for fashion. And still society has found a way to simply accept those parent decisions. Some of us get arms with scars from them BCG? vaccinations.
Part of being trans-human is the ability and openness to accept a different vision of humanity not only in our bodies but on others too. Regardless of their gender, age, etc.
The simple fact of putting a transponder under a couple of millimeters or skin aināt the end of the world. Nor a kid who is interested on doing it so for whatever reason even if itās just for show.
How many of us actually NEED to have such thing embedded in our skin permanently?
Encourage? Nah, but Iām not also discouraging him to follow his dreams or goals. Nor him or anyone.
What I do encourage is:
To avoid illegal activities.
To seek professional assistance.
Getting well informed.
And for underage like him, absolutely have the parents consent before anything.
Cuz legally they can take you to the doc and chop your weewee skin 
Showing your age a bit there bubbaā¦ The dreaded BCG marks havenāt happened since the late 70ās at least I think, when then switched to hypodermics.
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