I meanā¦ again my American perspectiveā¦
But what does that say about the value of ones life of you arenāt allowed to defend it?
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Thatās like saying that a saw is intended to make a piece of metal spin really quickly, when it is clearly intended for sawing. I think you could make that argument that it isnāt nesecarilly intended for hurting maybe for a .22 sports pistol or something. Surely not for larger calibre or specialised munitions like hollow round or expanding rounds that are quite clearly designed for hurting people - the context doesnāt really matter.
Also, I donāt know anyone who hunts with a (9mm) handgun - excluding hunting revolvers or things like large calibre handguns made for this purpose. I would make the argument that a handgun is specifically designed for hurting people (or other things), or at least that is itās intended purpose. You canāt make this argument with a knife, which usually has other possible uses (well, other then those triblade daggers and stilletos and trench spikes etc. - clearly intended for maiming abd killing).
Iām curious, and please donāt take this the wrong way, but do you know someone that had to use a gun in self defense on the street or something (a home shotgun i can kinda understand)?
This is all of course only my opinion, and please donāt take it the wrong way, Iām not trying to attack your way of life or your beliefs.
Of course, you are allowed to defend your life, but you arenāt allowed to use potentially lethal force to protect your propertyā¦
That trucker case was specific because he kept beating him after he was clearly not a threat anymore.
I used to carry a small 6 mm lady gun from the turn of the century. Best little handgun: it was perfect to defend oneself, it could be deadly if I really wanted it to be (I didnāt) and it was super-light and super-easy to carry.
I donāt like big guns. Theyāre almost always the wrong tool for the job.
Also, unlike every other thing on that list, they have a single purpose - punching large holes into stuff.
And Iām not against guns per se, they really fascinate me from a mechanical perspective, and they are real engineering marvels.
They make pretty good paperweights if you lose the magazine / ammo 
That is a fair scenario, my laws are similar to this
Boiling a lot of it downā¦ the short version is you donāt āshoot to killā
and you sure as hell donāt āshoot to woundā
(Sooo much wrong with that ideaā¦ thanks Hollywood)
You āshoot to stopā
If someone is running at you with a sword and you shoot him, and he fallsā¦ you stop
If you give him a few extraā¦ now itās criminal
If he gets back up and becomes a threat again, shoot again
If he dies from wounds, or doesnāt that has no bearing on your use of force so long as it was reasonable and you can prove a fear of great bodily harm, death, or sexual penetration (yes thatās the literal wordingā¦ sigh)
True but canāt think of that much else you could do with them
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Doesnāt mean thatās their only purpose
I shoot competition, itās sport
A baseball bat is a club, clubs were designed to hurt people, and yet (usually) itās used for non hurting purposes
Somethings original purpose does not limit or dictate itās use
Fascinating discussion, and everybody is being so well behaved.
especially considering there are some polar opposite points if view
WELL DONE COMMUNITY
Wow, I didnāt even see your post until after I posted mine. freaky timing
Personally I donāt see it as political per se.
Besides as above, everybody being kind polite listening and learningā¦
Personally, I think its fine
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I know some knife makers who make some amazing knives out of saw blades
The circular saw was probably āintendedā for use in a table saw or a portable circular saw to cut building lumber, but you could cut a small tree with it if you were so inclined
I assumed off topic was fair game, if not oops
This is Amals place of business, but I donāt think he will mind a civil discussion.
Nobody is attacking anybody else, people are asking questions and learning others points of view
If people want to get a bit more involved, I think that is more of a discord discussion, its a little more socialā¦
That is true, but only three legitimate uses for guns come to (at least my) mind: sports (as you said), hunting animals, and hurting/killing people. Am I missing anything? And in 2/3 of these cases someone is getting the lead pumped into them, be it animal or man.
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This needs to be called out
I very much respect this type of conversation,
Iām not trying to attack your perspective, or your culture either
Merely trying to give a better non media snippet look into it,
There are some very ironic things about guns in various cultures
Silencers for example in America are highly restricted, paperwork, fees, nearly a year of waiting till I can take it home etc
In many more restrictive countries they arenāt even regulatedā¦ blows my mind
There philosophical debate there, Iām not picking an argument or anything, but one persons hurting/kill is another persons defending/protecting
Does it matter? Idk
But thatās a lengthy debate that I donāt know if thereās even an answer for
Iāll probably only make a few more polite and friendly replies and then wander off to bed honestly
Hmm, here firearm parts and accessories are restricted as well, although that mostly applies to the receiver. I was at one point wandering if someone could theoreticaly just purchase an aftermarket slide and springs and parts of the trigger assembly, and manufacture the rest by hand. Of course, the very moment they would put it together, it would become an illegal āgreyā weapon.
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