I think that’s sort of a misunderstanding about how the payment card industry works. Any card goes through like 5 different service providers… any time you use it you’re basically telling 5+ huge companies how much you spent, where, and when… if any one of those service providers stops working, your payment card won’t work.
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I get that, but with a card if it stops working I can just go to my credit union and pay $5 and they just print me a new card. With an implant it’s a much bigger deal, if walletmor goes out of business I have to remove the implant, get a new one from another company if that’s even an option, get it installed, and hope they have better luck. I just don’t want an implant that could stop working any day due to circumstances completely outside my control.
Actually not in the case of Walletmor either. The companies that would impact that at this stage would be iCard and Mastercard. Once deployed those companies and the banks and processors are the ones who fulfill the daily use case.
Okay that’s a bit better, I think I was confusing it with what I read about purewrist. It’d still be cool to see in the future a more open standard for wireless payment devices.
It’s about the same with purewrist afaik. With the walletmor compared to purewrist, replace iCard with purewrist. Not sure if it’s mastercard or visa though
to add towhat Amal said,
From my point of view, I got a payment conversion about 1 year ago, and it has been amazing, so conveniant and works flawlessly.
My bank decided they were no longer going to support “Pay Tag” now my implant has a 3 year expiry, I have 2 years to go, I am not even bothered as there is no point regretting something that is out of my control, I am just looking forward to 2 more years of use.
When it comes time to remove it, a simple slice and pull out then swap out.
No regrets whatsoever.
I already have 3 other potential options lined up to replace it
Anybody considering a conversion / Purewrist / Walletmor just do it
Remember Walletmor are now 8 years expiry
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Glad to hear it! I’m just not super comfortable getting an implant with that kind of limited lifespan. Super cool to hear the success stories with the payment conversions though! I love how fast these technologies are evolving.
I found an article about canadian purewrist style products
DC Tags or Visa Paywave seem to be good keywords, but I didn’t find them.
EDIT: ok their website is dead, but maybe a similar product exists?
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The transit system in the metro Vancouver area uses an RFID system, including option of card, wristband, and keyfob formats. Been thinking of getting one converted if/when we have to start commuting downtown again. But I haven’t seen any reliable info on a payment system
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I will add, that while NOT DT’s fault,
My use cases for pure wrist is limited thanks to my areas massive prevalence of veriphone readers
Which thanks to @Satur9 eigging we know that the antennas in veriphone readers suck hardcore
If your area is largely comprised of those readers maybe give it some thought
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Is this going to be true of the Apex Flex?
Mine too if I’m being honest 
but a good enough amount of places I buy things have decent readers that I figured I could join the fight to convince Mastercunt/Visass to allow the implants.
But I have gotten 1 successful read on a Veriphone reader thanks to @Satur9 and it’s teardown showing where the antenna is.
I’m not sure where the veriphone issues are coming from, I have gotten my next to read almost consistently on these… It reads invalid card but it does read… Maybe actual payment chips need more power or something? Or are you referring to a different veriphone model?
I am personally referring to the MX 915
While the one your video shows appears to be the MX 925 (not pictured because I’m lazy lol)
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Ah ok, that makes much more sense then, thanks for clarifying
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This is motivating me to spend some intimate time with another veriphone reader (or 2 
)
The amount of time it took to register a invalid makes me wonder if I haven’t been holding still long enough
I’ll need to be a creep again at my local speedway on my way home from work around 3am some more lol
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I’ve also been trying out just touching the tip of the implant to the reader antenna, like perpindicular poking at it. It would okay. Maybe there’s a corner trick we can do. I’ll try some things out. The chip itself blocks the field a bit in the center
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Small update to the Saga. The first conversion just arrived sans the needle or numbing gel so I think usps mightve taken em
actually i think that’s my fault for being terribly inconsistent and unclear. conversions can take many forms, not all installable via our dngr.us/needle … so we don’t include needles or numbing gel with conversions… you’d have to grab that stuff separately if you want them for your conversion… though I should make note of that on the product page maybe…
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