Ubiquiti Access control

Keep us posted

The Ubiquiti access cards have an EM410x LF tag and a DESFire EV2 chip… but the chip is … odd. It’s not a MOB package from NXP… it is clearly a COB package… probably made by a Chinese card maker that hopefully bought NXP DESFire EV2 chips in bare die format and made their own carrier boards.

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Hope this doesn’t preclude them from being converted :pensive::thinking:

Well, it’s not great… the chip is the 17pF type according to TagInfo and that means a very large old style wire coil antenna, which I don’t have many of and make the overall width of the flex implant a little larger… so the 4G needle install will be … challenging at best.

I wonder… I will contact Ubiquiti to find out if we could explore a java card applet for this that could be deployed to the VivoKey Apex… they tout the idea that “any rfid chip could be used” kind of thing… so they seem to care about interop… @fraggersparks we might have a legit reason to emulate a DESFire EV2 applet after all.

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Ok Uniquiti customers… jump on this post and boost it;

https://community.ui.com/questions/Feature-Request-Allow-VivoKey-to-develop-a-secure-java-card-applet-for-door-access/e89dfaea-32c8-4662-b7f3-be24feac242b

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I am getting an “oops this page does not exist” error when clicking that link

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yeah you gotta log in with your ubiquiti account first i guess… no idea why

even when I am logged in I am getting a 404, bummer :frowning:

Same. Logged in, 404. I even manually looked through all of the topics yesterday, and searched. No luck.

Grrrre

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Ok finally got it sorted…

https://community.ui.com/questions/Develop-a-secure-java-card-3-0-5-applet-for-door-access/1c956229-cd4f-4312-a50f-04e8782c8600

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Joined and commented

Amal, were you intentionally being PUNNY here?

“developer program that VivoKey can participate in which would open the door to this collaboration?”

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I just checked in on the thread linked and it appears UI just rejected it and moved on?

Classic grass roots approach. Need to get some higher level exec a hooker and some coke to get any traction.

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Are the UA card conversions not possible? If not, I guess we will have to get a crowdfunding campaign going for some hookers and coke for these executives :joy:

You don’t wan’t hookers, you want call girls…unless the Exec is into necrophillia.

yes they are… its just … low prio at the moment… i even have a bunch of cards sent to me by a benefactor :slight_smile: … just low prio at the moment. The cards are LF / HF with a simple EM for the LF side… DESFire for the HF side… but they are 17pF DESFire not 70pF and that means big ass antenna… which I don’t have many of to be honest… and it makes a “narrow” flex so wide it bends the definition of “narrow”…

they want call girls… they. :wink:

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i think that’s me :slight_smile:

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me-too2