VivoKey Apex update

Hey, don’t throw him off please :joy: Satur9 worked so long on a 25mm version, no changes now so close before the finish line!

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i said nothing :zipper_mouth_face:

:laughing:

Or

Give it a try, if you get stuck, just ask.

Also I’m guessing Performance is a more important consideration than size for Satur9 and Amal.

I’m not if sure Amal would be too keen managing a number of form factors:
With Blinky
Without Blinky
Larger better performance with Blinky
Smaller lesser Performance with blinky
Larger better performance without Blinky
Smaller lesser Performance without blinky

Ontop of that, the OTHER Apex form factors.
Again just my thoughts, but sounds messy to me

We can always go back to buying premade antennas and converting them, surely for some extra $$$ Amal would do that (if we provide the antennas)

If I’m getting a large implant, it better have a decent range. I might end up getting an Apex Mega when it’s available.

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Can we get a UHF version, those things have excellent range? :laughing: how about a chest sized antenna?

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So you’re planning to go from no chips at all to the largest possible implant, right?

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Well, you know what they say? Go big or go home…

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This discussion makes me think about Cyberpunk ideas. Phones have a small antenna, and get wifi, cell service and GPS signals. When we get around to powered implants (equivalent of a smartphone in your arm), I wonder where the antenna would go? You would need a bigger antenna because of the soft tissue, and a powered implant would have way less energy available for upload if it were using energy harvesting. Would the antenna go on/around the chest?
I know there was something I heard once about a coil of wire around the neck acting to pick up electromagnetic signals for either a magnet implant or some kind of audio device. Was that a real thing or just a proposed idea?
~ Jamie

The tissue is not the issue (rhyme!), it’s the salty water floating around in the tissue that causes the problem. This is why submarines must drag a mile long cable behind them at the surface and transmit on VLF (very low frequency) with a huge watt load just to send tiny bits of data bit by bit.

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this was likely the magnetic coil used to vibrate magnet implants to generate sound.

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That sounds about right.

Yeah, I did know it’s actually the salt water but I was just really abbreviating the concept. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, if nobody has any ideas for antennae for implants under the skin, in Cyberpunk2077 there are transdermal electronics like this


Salty water wouldn’t be a problem if the antenna passes through the skin, right? We’d just need a bio-compatible coating that lets the signal pass through but protects from corrosion…
~ Jamie

And infection

Pfffft you want infection prevention as well as corrosion protection? Can it at least be carcinogenic then? :unicorn_shock_surprise:

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I would imagine that the coatings on the implants might work well, but I’m not an expert.

Maybe you could add a sprinkle of uranium, radium, or asbestos to the mix?
~ Jamie

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I don’t want uranium…
that shits common place, let’s go with designer plutonium…

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They won’t…
I had microdermals once and I love the idea of transdermal implants, but they. get. infected.
I am pretty routined in piercing aftercare, so I know what to do, and I made my microdermals last for eight years before I had to take them out - my piercer said he was amazed that they lasted that long, for most of them don’t.
If you take the big-ass transdermals that are used for stuff like the iron mohawk -

mohawk

they tend to stay longer, but are still incredibly prone to infections and growing out. I’d love to have a USB-slot (not working, just for style^^) somewhere behind my ear or so, and my artist even had an idea on how to achieve that, but it would definitely lead to problems just because it’s an open (!) pocket inside the skin.

Lyrics for a Biohack rap!

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God that would be so cool, I’d be down
(Preferable usb c though, for a more ghost in the shell vibe)

Problem is I can see people being asshats and non consensually jamming things in it for giggles… possibly causing injury ( or their injury when they punched in the face)

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That’s always a no-go :wink:
Yeah, it would cause big problems if you’d actually plug something in there, especially the part of pulling it out again… I caught on one of my microdermals with a safety belt once, that was quite a nasty feeling :grimacing:

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