It’s a thought I had, seeing how so many people come looking for an installer. Being as we have forum members who are comfortable self installing, is there any way we could encourage / support them into becoming installers at large?
Basically trying to form an in forum network of installers to spread the love.
Every jurisdiction is gonna have it’s own legal / procedures, etc. Help dealing with that would obviously be key. I don’t know if anybody would really want to step up to the role. It’s out of my comfort zone for sure.
Love the idea! I mean as a mutual agreement. But at the same time certain rules would have to be followed i.e. no minors, you open the channel to being prosecuted for injury (gbh/abh) as well as endangerment and whatever else wants to be thrown at you.
I was thinking more crowd supported? How do we get these brave souls up to speed so they can stab as many people as possible? Maybe a few would go full pro, but I really see this more as a semi-pro kinda thing. But how do we launch? What do they need?
There’s certainly enough trade to support an army of semi-pro installers.
I’d love to help set up regional hubs. Try not to have anyone without a piercer in <500 mi. Wouldn’t it be nice to know that there’s always someone nearby to help? Maybe we could find a nationwide cowork chain that we can set in.
In theory I like the idea, I’d feel comfortable with certain installs, I even looked into becoming a licensed body modder in Phoenix since there really isn’t anyone around except for Steve Hayworth who is very expensive. But the idea is fraught with risk for exactly the quoted reason… it’s one thing to install into someone you know, another to install into complete strangers without the proper license or insurance. I know its all in the name of biohacking, but still.
What about the after Covid gathering(s) that Amal had mentioned? Training sessions?
Yeah, that. Liability waver, maybe?
I don’t know if you’d need a piercer’s license if you weren’t getting paid. But we’re all over the globe, and rules are different in every place. Maybe there’s a way to teach prospective members of the Knights of the honorable order of Hand Stabbers to research their local laws?
Legally doing that for money causes a load of issues. This is because you’re offering an unlicensed service without proper training.
It’s not against the law for someone to do it to another in most countries but it’s not recommend. A bad install can lead to complications down the line and a wasted implant.
KSEC has been working with DT to try up scale the installer network around the world with professional installers but as a company it’s dodgy ground recommending a home install.
There are definitely DT installation guides but they’re also aimed at professionals.
The way we’ve managed events and know how some are run (installer wise), is someone from a med of piercing background doing them with guidance.
Additionally there’s still a big push from all over the world to stop selling self installation kits and try get people to have a professional installation. This helps from both a legal and a healthcare point of view.
Don’t get me wrong it would be a case of a couple of friends meet up and do it. I know its risky ect and personally I would be doing it for random people who joins the fourm 2 minutes ago. But I think it could work with mutual respect but obviously there is the chance of getting burned legally.