Hey all I’m very new to this . I have a few questions.
I would like to copy my train card that uses mifare classic and put into an xm1(when I get one eventually)
My question is. Once I do this can I also copy another card but still use previous clone aswell?. I effectively want to use my xm1 for 2 different cards . If this is doable Will the reader used (at train station) only read the card that it is supposed to?
No, there is one chip with one ID so you cant clone 2 chips entirely.
However there are multiple pages on the chip so if you have use cases that do not need to read from the same location on the chip, but I would not bet on 2 off the shelf cards having no collisions. Only way I could see it working is if you clone 1 card then if there is any unused pages you could use that for storing data for a DIY thingy (technical term ) but I am just spit-balling, I have not actually tried this idea.
Thank you! So I could program it to my train card but also use it for something else that just reads the ID and unlocks something ? I ideally will be getting the ultimate implant pack so will have three implants .
Yes after you clone the card you could enroll the card with multiple systems you own no problem.
I was also saying that the chip has multiple pages (data blocks in the image)
Your train card probably only uses some, so if you identify what blocks it is not using you might be able to load data into those unused blocks. Unfortunately you but you would need to code your own reader to only read the bit that the train card left unused.
The train card reader is coded to look at specific things for example it might know to look at the :
Title in the case of the xM1 this would be the UID
Page 1 might have your name, DOB, etc printed on it that would be a data block on the xM1
Page 2 might have your credit on it (That would be nice #freetravel ) this would be another data block
Page 3-6 are not needed by the train card system so are blank and never looked at by the train reader, more data blocks
If you where to theoretically have something that only looked at page 3-6 say a computer password with a DIY reader like this@Vicarious shared a while ago.
As for enrolling your cloned train pass to another system, if you have say a door lock that only looks at the UID (Book title) you can tell it to let in the “title” of your train pass without having to change anything about the data on the xM1 (in the book)
I hope my analogies help :
Anyone else please feel free to clarify anything I may have oversimplified
Thank you so much for all this info! So if I had coded my train pass in… and it only used block 1 and 2 could I get onto my computer use a reader and fill the rest of the blocks with any information I want?
The upcoming apex chips would be best but there not out yet.
Currently the xSIID would be best as it has the most storage I think. (EDIT: I lied, this has more storage, https://dangerousthings.com/product/xdf2/)
Between the xM1 and NExT I’d pick the NExT because the xM1 is the only option for NFC applications that need a specific UID currently afaik.
Thank you! I decided I would just have an nfc guarded database on my phone and use my next to unlock it. I also worked out the spark 2 can be used for a business card also
I will also use the next for random cloning of cards in the future for temporary applications
The app itself does not, the VivoKey Vault service will use a totally separate app, and browser extensions etc. but authentication to unlock the password database will go through the VivoKey app and chip scan.