Chip compatibility matrix - Google Sheets

Correct, FlexM1 Gen1a

My FlexM1 was already a cloned Yale card so it registered instantly, but my other Yale lock registers any Mifare Classic cards so I assume this is the same. I’ll do some testing.

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Currently out on business and noticed the spreadsheet has a hotel/motel sheet.

I’m in a Hyatt in California and seems like they use a Mifare Classic 1K type card.

Not very Savvy with my Proxmark but in case you wanted to add that to the matrix, it’s there. Wish I had a xM1, I wanted to freak out my coworkers by unlocking my room with a wave of my hand.

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Cool, thanks, I’ll add a note, because it may need more than just the UID

Anything I can do to get more info for you? I got time to kill before I hit the bed. Plus I’m here for a few more days.

Actually, that’s probably enough, because somebody with a magic implant can either
do a full dump :wink: with MCT App

or

use their PM3 to get the keys that way

since you were clever enough to take your PM3 with you and you want to play

Ragebolus/Equipter just posted something recently that will help

If you can’t use your laptop at the door, you could try offline sniff, you will need a powerbank , and the commands /lights will depend on the offline library you have…which is probably Sammy Kamkars

Here’s some great further reading collated by @Concorde

https://forum.dangerousthings.com/t/handy-dandy-tips-and-tricks/13041/16?u=pilgrimsmaster


Range / compatibility would be another good thing to know, but you won’t be able to do that without an xM1 of FlexM1, maybe this is the motivation you need to get a Flex or xM1 implant.

I always travel with at least a T5577 and a MF1k gen2 card for testing before writing to implants

I reccomend KSEC for test card bundle and magic card pack to get them in one place, and the shipping is much cheaper than it was.

Too tired last night to sniff my hotel door (open bars at conferences are great, aren’t they?), but I got a few hours of free time to mess around with the proxmark3.

Here is the sniff:

Just a word of caution, at least from personal experience. I still have yet to get my xM1 to read at the hotels I’ve been at. Despite me successfully cloning their Hotel Card to one of my blank 1k mf cards, I can’t get their door to read my xM1. Very Frustrating. I wish I went with the flexM1. (Little disclaimer: I think my xM1 is a little too deep. I can barely feel it in my skin)

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I’ve been using all the unifi stuff with my Apex and ntag on the unifi access light reader. Both and comparable but unreadable on the pro reader since the NFC on that thing suuucks. The light reader works every time. Also under the apex section maybe listing what applet is needed to make things work would be a good idea.

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ADDITION

The Zestech SDL-100 deadbolt can be unlocked with an xNT implant.
Amazon CA link: https://www.amazon.ca/SDL-100-B-Fingerprint-Touchscreen-Auto-Locking-Properties/dp/B08XQ4Z57T
It comes with a couple of mifare classic 1k mini-cards, but I was able to enroll my xNT with it. At first, I didn’t try to use the xNT since it came with mifare, but I read another post in the “House Lock Recommendations” thread where a device came with mifare but they were able to enroll an NTAG216 - so I tried it and it works! The touch sensors for the numbers are reasonably sensitive, so it’s a little hard to do the programming without accidentally entering a jumbled numeric code, but it works!

The only downsides I see to this lock are:

  • the physical key is non-standard, and I’m not sure that it can be duplicated at most locksmiths
  • the physical key is behind a little cover that needs a small L shaped pin to remove

You can also use number codes or finger prints to unlock the door.

I was impressed with the build quality. The entire inside casing is metal, even the battery cover.

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Added to the Matrix
THANKS

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The Sifely deadbolt is confirmed to Not work with inplant size tags… I’m too ADHD to do a full proper review… hard to follow and talk about all the pros and cons and nuisance once I know it’s pointless






It will accept anything 14443a such as a ntag, mifare classic, or mifare ultralight/ntag I2c, so that’s kinda good

I used a flipper to emulate those tags and the the lock will open…. But the actual implant size tag nothing

I even tried a (non implantable) flexNT2 which has some sweet read range… and zilch

It even struggles with the included mifare keychain fobs, needs to be almost pressed into the lock to work

I would tear into the keypad to try to see the pcb… but I intend to return this, so I don’t wanna mess anything up

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Added to the Matrix ( even though it doesn’t work )

I wonder if it would be better to have a separate sheet for non compatible smart locks :thinking:

I just figured you’d red no box it like elsewhere in the matrix

I like everything in one list just so I can search. And not working is very good data to have and should for sure be on the list.

I’ve done that, but the implants that haven’t been tested, really should have an orange TBC, we are only assuming the others don’t / won’t work, same reason as the orange in the green columns, I don’t want somebody buying a lock on the presumption that it will work…
A blank cell can / is used in place of a “NO” if the frequency is not the same, save the

Normally I would agree, I just HATE spreadsheets, they are not a good look-up.

Where-as if you are looking for a compatible lock, you go to the “Working” sheet, and if you find a lock in a shop / online, you check the “working” if it’s not there, you check the “not working” if it’s also not there, you buy the lock, you report back to the community and it goes on the list…
Just my thoughts.

If we added every lock that didn’t work ( smart locks ) that would be a big list and adds to the clutter.
Also the more we add, the slower the page refreshes. I have put A LOT of time into this document, and when it got so painfully slow, I had to smallify EVERY image, so it was useable, that was A LOT of time also .

Like many things, there is no right nor wrong, just smarter ways of doing things… ( I’m also not saying my way I suggested is the smarter way )

Yeah maybe an official database that has a web UI search and filters is a better idea at this point.

I tested with a Xm1, next/xNT, flexNT2
Verified that it would accept all of the above when emulated from a flipper, nothing accepted in implant format, both in vivo and out

If that’s not good enough :man_shrugging:t2:

There was a random review on Amazon, from someone with implants… I didn’t know them or know if I could trust them…

Had they submitted to the matrix, and it was marked as a fail, it would prevent others from “trying it”

Ah, THAT’S better, thanks, I can’t add 'em if I don’t know what was tested.

I can update the matrix to reflect that, and can TBC FlexM1, flexMT etc

XSIID also