Indian Scout Bobber 2018 - Keyless Ignition

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I just finished my Keyless Ignition and fuelpump security setup on my Indian Scout Bobber Motorcycle.

I had some problems with the MO-Lock and my NExT RFID + NFC Chip Implant, i wasn’t able to turn on the MO-Lock, turning it off was not an issue.

I cloned a EM4100 transponder to my implant with the Proxmark 3 and the ProxLF antenna for the Proxmark3 RDV4, it works perfect with a pretty decent reader distance :slight_smile: Thanks @Pilgrimsmaster for your hint :slight_smile:

I made a small video if you want to watch

Goodbye keys :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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Gorgeous bike! And an awesome project!

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Thanks @Moonman0922 I like the result and I just love DT NeXt implantat , a life saver :slight_smile:

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that is really awsume this is what i want on my honda :smiley:

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I love it.

Really discreet

Read range looks good and also reliable

You did an awesome job :+1:

Thanks for sharing

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Thanks @Pilgrimsmaster, it’s still stanged why I had to clone another Em4100 to my implant - but it works now and that’s good enough for me :blush:

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I am finally getting my bike moved from storage up to my current home soon. I am using my vacation time over the holidays to go pick it up. Doing this is something I’ve considered ever since I got my implant, and I already drafted it out months ago (with help from ODaily). Do you feel that the Mo-Lock is worth it when compared to a custom latching relay system that uses an XAC? I can very easily replicate a similar system by using the XAC V2 with 3 regular DPDT relays, or 1 DPDT relay and 1 latching relay. Alternatively, the Mo-Lock can do it with just 2 relays and is much more compact than the XAC, as well as the fact that it is already weather proofed. Do you think the cost of the Mo-Lock is worth it when compared to the alternatives?

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That is a brilliant project!
Thanks for sharing!

It sounds like a great theft deterrent beyond being super practical!

Also looks cool and achieved a great read range too! ^^

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I don’t know the XAC, I choose the MO-lock due to its compact design, I wanted it to cover the hole that was left removing the old ignition switch - it fitted exactly within 1,5mm enough to make a nylon fitting.

Also it has a great reader range with the NeXT implant 2-4 mm.

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This is the product I was referring to. After adding a casing for the XAC (because it comes an exposed circuit board), the relays, and anything else I might run into it will probably be around 4x larger than the MO-Lock. Not sure which route I want to go yet, one is prettier, but the other is more cost effective.

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There would be no place for me to fit this on my Scout Bobber, and Ill also be worried with the exposed circuit for a bike.

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Although that seems perfect for a custom bike, where you can lay the access control board flat down the seat somewhere and run the wires through everything. perhaps even enabling a secondary antenna in the handle.

But for a conversion I think the MO-lock is much easier to integrate.

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What is the nylon fitting? Is it between the MO-lock, and the bike frame? Lovely bike, btw.

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Ok so, I’ve played around with computers, building my own, OC’ing, over volting, soldering etc. so I can overvolt some more… I’ve tinkered with cars (2018 Focus RS, 05 STi) and love playing with fuel maps etc. flashing ECUs is almost a daily thing for me; which can’t be done anymore because of CARB/EPA legislation. Anyways…

But this… this is amazing…would you be willing to walk me thru the process? I just ordered my '22 bobber and would absolutely love to get this done. I don’t understand most of the hardware/language that you’re using but I’m guessing you implanted a chip that emulates your keyless transponder.

So what gear do I need and where can I pick that up (guessing you keep the keys as a backup just in case). Also what’s the process for programming the implant, and did you do the implant yourself?

Seriously amazed… Thanks for any help. If you’re ever out West (Vegas/SLC Utah) let me know, would be fun to hit the canyons with another bobber.

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Hey buddy, We havent seen @nanna for a while, but to answer your question on her behalf

Implant wise, An xEM will do it, But I would highly reccomend a NExT implant over that plus you get Free shipping with the NExT ( **Free shipping for qualified orders. Check our shipping policy for more info.*)
You could get some larger implants, FlexEM or FlexMT.

Ignition wise, you have a couple of approaches,
@nana (OP) used a MO-Lock, which is a little easier to install if your electrical / electronic knowledege is not great.

If you are willing to lean and make your own solution for much cheaper, you could achieve the same result with an xEM Access controller and some relays.

You should not need to do anything with your implant, as the xEM comes preset in EM mode and will enroll into both systems no problems.

  • a 2022 model I assume comes with an immobolizer, which I’m sure can be bypassed, but will take a little more knowledge and work.

If you head down the NExT or xEM + xAC path, you could grab a bundle to save some bucks
I hope this is enough to continue your enthusiasm, and to start your journey on a new keyless life

Anymore questions, fire away