Long live the new flesh - finally got the flexNExT under my skin

Especially since it varies a lot, depending on the person - my body tends to swell a lot, others maybe less…
I kept it elevated for the first days, even at night (freaking uncomfortable to sleep that way!), wore a tight bandage with sterile swabs on the implant for about 8-9 days constantly (and still at work and during night), and there is still quite some fluid buildup. Less than on my silicone implant (I take a picture every day during healing time, so I can compare well^^), but still.

Oh, and a little update again - no more turning since the first night. Rotated about 5-10° and stayed that way. Going to take the threads out in a few days, I think, will post a picture of the suture afterwards :wink:

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hey, how noticeable is the edge now? like when you don’t have your hand in a position to show it

At this point I can confirm this: now that my doNExT is properly sandwiched between my arm and the skin, it won’t turn anymore. At least not permanently. And clearly you’re right: the pocket needs to be completely dry, because before mine was, I was able to spin the implant around at will. Now that’s gone for good.

The interesting thing is, it’s not even held in place by friction or stickiness alone. What happens is, my arm forces it to assume a bent disc shape all the time. And since it’s not completely flexible, it has a tendency to keep that shape.

That means if I do the one single movement that causes it to turn, provided I don’t stay in position for too long after the movement and bend it permanently into a new shape - which never happens because it’s really not a natural movement or comfortable hand position to hold for long - it’ll “snap” back into place simply by mechanical fit.

This may not hold true if it’s implanted in a wider arm than mine, or on the back of the hand. And maybe a full-featured flexNExT that’s stiffer than my doNExT doesn’t do that. But at least in a thin-ish arm like mine with that implant, that’s how it works. So in my case, no tab or funky serrations needed after all.

That’s really interesting - it means your skin is stronger than the doNExT? As it holds it in place properly? Because mine (on the back of the hand) simply forces the skin to form around it, not the other way round… so it is pretty visible, even though the swelling is getting less finally :wink: But the edges are totally visible, especially on the sides of my hand, and they will become even more visible the more “dry” it all gets…

Oh yeah, the doNExT totally conforms to the shape of my arm.

The edges stick out a tiny bit when I twist my wrist all the way clockwise or counterclockwise, because the skin doesn’t completely follow the bones underneath. As a result, the doNExT “slides” from one bone to the other and the edges poke out a bit when they reach the edge of the radius or the ulna, because the implant can’t conform to the tight radius of the bone - if that makes any sense. But even then it’s hardly noticeable.

I think the lack of hard center in the doNExT really makes a difference in flexibility.

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It hasn’t changed much compared to the last pictures.

Do you think maybe, during the healing process, if you had a tape forcing the edges that are showing into your hand, it would heal more “tight”, and would show less since there would be less space for the implant to lift your skin?
Im waiting for my flexNext to arrive. Wondering if I will possibly find a bodymod artist in my town… it will be the toughest part…

Maybe, yes, but the tape had to be very tight for that, I think. And in my case, taping was no option, simply because it was way too hot on that day and sweating below the tape might have lead to some serious bad reactions - especially considering that my body reacts to any tape with redness, itching and little bubbles after a really short period of time. No big problem on “normal” skin, but directly above an implant… nah, my artist and me decided against it.
It might have been possible to bend the implant a bit before inserting it (like I wrote above, we didn’t dare because we weren’t sure how sturdy the flexy actually was), at least if it might hold the shape a bit.

Just wanted to do my standard-“if you ever get to Germany, I know a great artist!”-thing, and then I realized that you’re from Brazil. Might be a bit far to travel, but, still, if you ever get to Germany… :wink:
There are some really impressive modders in South America, I’m just not sure where they were located… I remember one in Venezuela, I think (the guy who even removes noses and all that stuff), but I think there was one in Brazil as well… hell, have to research that :smiley:

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Ya cool! :slightly_smiling_face:
I will definetly try to bend it before putting it on. And try to apply a nice “breathable” tape since my skin is very good at not reacting much to stuff and since I should not really show my implant much at work.
Ive been to Denmark last year… unfortunatly didnt know anything about Dangerous Things. Now we have a broken country and Im no exception, so, I may take a while to go back to Europe, really unfortunatly… would love to meet and have you do my implant maybe lol =P

Nononononono - don’t get me wrong, I don’t do this stuff myself :smile:
I just love to have it done to me, and I know a very good artist I can safely recommend, that’s all :wink:
Just searched the web a bit and found quite a lot of tattoo-studios in Brazil, so if you think of one, maybe link it here and I can take a look at the artist’s work, if you like.

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The partners map may be a good place to start, but the map isn’t updated often, so you will need to contact them to confirm their details.

Here is a link to the partners map,

Ya, cool man. I will definetly contact them. I would really like to do it myself, but I recognize its not a good idea hehehe lO> totaly hardcore on this subject hahahaha

Oh, and WELCOME

Also, if you have some other local piercers closer to you, this may be a good reference for you.

A self install not recommended, but sometimes it is all people have access to.
If you do go down that path, an assisted install ( somebody to help ) will be a better option.

I see you are in the military, so if you know an medics they may also be a good person to ask

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Nope, not at all :wink:
Especially if you want to have it on your hand or arm - it’s impossible to do this with just one hand, even if you’re not poking around in your own body. And you need the right tools.
Additionally, visiting a good artist can make this a great experience, and it’s a lot better for hygiene and aftercare and stuff.

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I agree with @Coma :arrow_double_up:

But if you NEED it, you are better to have the information, therefore, here is some more for you

HOW DO I GET IT IMPLANTED

Here is a VERY informative FAQ about x-Series implants, some of which is covered below. But it is recommend you read these FAQs.
There are piercing partners but if there is none near you any body piercer should be able to implant this for you.

A doctor, nurse or medic would be able to but they will likely take more convincing…

A self or assisted install is possible,
The following links that will make this very clear that it is easy to do

read https://dangerousthings.com/wp-content/uploads/Introduction-to-Implantable-Transponders-for-Professionals.pdf ?

read https://dangerousthings.com/wp-content/uploads/Professional-Guide-to-2x12mm-transponder-installation.pdf ?

Watch Installation procedure Guide 1

Watch Installation Procedure Guide 2

Watch Needle insertion angle

How to approach a professional DT Info
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This is an excerpt from one of the Wikis, these are a great place to start, plus the faq and info sections

He’s about to get a flexNExT inside his body…
I know that all those links you posted are about the X-series, and you clearly stated that, but I think very little of this applies to flexies…

Main differences (just my point of view, I might be wrong):
No, not every piercer is able to do that. They need tools for this (especially for something as large as the flexNExT, those can’t be installed with a needle), and they most likely need some anaesthetic. Both of which are usually not available for “normal” piercers, so most “normal” piercing studios will send you away because they simply can’t do the procedure. You need a bodymod-studio, ideally one that does implants (silicone stuff) rather frequently.

And I highly doubt that a self-install is even possible for a flexNExT - I know how much force my artist had to apply to separate the skin, this is not possible (in a “healthy way”) with just one hand. And I even would not recommend an assisted install, for the person will literally be poking around in your arm (or hand, or whatever :wink: ). An assisted install with a needle might be okay, and a lot less risky, but this is surgery.

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Ah, right you are,
Yeah a FlexNExT is somewhat more significant, Yeah, I missed that, I thought it was a FlexNT, which is not quite so significant

The information was more around the providing GENERAL information, so thanks for pointing that out buddy :+1:

Nope, Right you are, I just plain ol’ fucked up,
me not read so good :flushed:

Thanks @Coma
Apologies @JRenato

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See, I usually forget the general information at all and jump into the specifics - guess we complement each other well :smile:

But know I am thinking if anyone ever did a scalpelwork-install on their own… I mean, aside from crazy stuff like the circadia and all the things Lepht Anonym installed… :wink:

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I just saw there are TWO red pins :pushpin: in Brazil, hopefully one of them work out


Yes, I will call them and first thing talk to them, maybe they can suggest someone at my town. I actually was hoping to find a body mod artist that already have experience doing subdermal implants. Because traveling in this covid days is not something interesting.
About doing myself its just a mind travel :laughing: As I said, i recognize its not a good idea.

Thank you guys, for your help.

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