I’m under the impression that the “PAY” is any microcard conversion. This is a bit different than that, it’s more like a regular flex implant, so it should probably have a different name to prevent confusion.
This isn’t related to walletmoor at all. Walletmoor is only active in parts of Europe.
They know, if it’s not them it’s someone else.
Someone will slap their name on conversions of these.
Nah, that’s been done before, I think pilgrim has one. Just depends on your microcards chip.
They already did, it’s Dangerous Things! 
Also btw, I think the rectangle version will likely have a much better range.
So maybe not every converted purewrist will be in the wedge format.
Fair. We’ll see what Amal thinks. I would be fine with keeping every different type of payment conversion under the umbrella “PAY”. Let’s keep referring to it as that for now.
If people really like this and it performs well, Amal may preemptively buy batches of this chip and convert them, and sell it as a regular product on the store, in which case it would be different from the normal payment conversion service. The fact that it’s an NXP chip that he already has antennas for makes that a possibility. The US is a pretty big market.
Ok so far here’s the deal… I converted one of these cards to a wedge and got decent range with it, but when I tested at the local mcdonalds and grocery store, it didn’t work. I do think this could be because the actual chip was not recognized by the terminals (both were the same VeriFone style terminal).
Therefore I have ordered my own purewrist and I will test the unaltered card with those same terminals to determine if it’s a range issue or a chip issue. My hunch is on the latter. The USA is absolute garbage when it comes to contactless support. I tried my CitiBank tap credit card at a bunch of places a couple years ago and Starbucks was the only fucking place that recognized it, even though everywhere I tested had Apple Pay signs up at every terminal.
I’ve encountered many of those terminals some have nfc enabled, some don’t
Hmmm
McDonald’s should have it enabled because I use nfc there often
There’s a chance the kid didn’t know how to turn it on
Maybe… I asked to pay by tap at McDonald’s and they poked some buttons and passed the terminal out the window … I’d imagine it was on, but who knows.
If only there was a handy dandy tool you could have tested it with…
If you want one Amal, I’m pretty sure I can hook you up, let’s just say… I know a guy 
you dont need to go through pilgrim you can just go to their website lol http://dangerousthings.com/
haha dude… I checked my wallet after it didn’t work the first time and apparently not having one in there was just Murphy’s Law.
I’m definitely going to be testing this around at my favorite merchants before committing to the conversion/install. Given that I can’t clone my regular credit card to it (and thusly won’t get those sweet sweet points), and can’t really use it at any kind of bar/restaurant (if those even exist anymore) I plan to use this:
A. During runs, so I can grab a smoothie at the end without needing my wallet
B. When I forget my wallet when walking downtown
C. Just for convenience at local corner stores/ walgreens and stuff
I figure there’s like 10-15 places max I’ll realistically ever use it over my actual credit card, so I’m just gonna test it at all of them and never have any surprises 
Haha, That was a little touch of my motivation for getting mine.
The last time I was in Fiji 
I went for a run, 
I had planned on an 8km run, and I did a Forrest Gump…“I just kept runnin’”, I ended up running just under 25km (more than a half Marathon), If you weren’t aware, Fiji is HOT and HUMID and not even half way I was parched to say the least, I regretted not having any money with me just to buy a simple drink of water 
, This was not the first time I had done something similar…How I wished I had the ability to summon the power to pay with my paws 
Now I do, 
never to be thirsty and stranded on a Tropical Island 
again.
when I saw that it wasn’t working right I put my pure wrist order on hold,
I’ll reassess after more testing I guess
@Satur9 I guess I should have listened when you said to wait
@amal I wonder if it has to do with pure wrist “requiring” a pin, and the readers are possibly setup to not require a pin for contactless
Gee, that must have sucked. In Australia, pretty much everywhere which takes cards has contactless, in fact at markets and such people are using Square to let small stalls take cards - and that is contactless only for the base model.
Yeah we are quite lucky here in NZ 
and Oz 
, Eftpos is the major player in payment terminals.
In NZ about 80% of terminals are contactless, the remaining are Chip and Pin, with just the occasional Mag swipe
I haven’t had to put my card in a machine for at least a year. It’s pretty fantastic.
And especially during covid it has made contact with high traffic items like an Eftpos Machine alot safer.
@Satur9 make sure you and Amal post updates, I’ll resume mine when it’s figured out what’s up
