Not to mention that posted blurb doesnāt mention that there are large groups of people that CANT be vaccinated at the momentā¦ but assumption and accusations fly
Some people donĀØt like it, and you know me, Iām all for accommodating peopleās feelings.
Well Iām still here 
I wasnāt quite planning on it last week. But that might change.
Just to clarify the āStats from aboveā Those that caught the Delta strain are not necessarily Anti-Vaxers, They may well have not had the vaccine yet.
Most, if not all were just unfortunate to get it.
We have our share of Anti-Vaxxers, and their stance is stronger because they have walked around in a country with ZERO Covid Cases for so longā¦
I wonder if itās possible to link multiple Apex implants to one account?
For example, an Apex Max in the forearm for maximum range and an Apex Flex in the hand when more reader kung-fu is necessary
Good question.
I only have one Vivokey at the moment, but when I add my Apex Flex, this is how I will do it.
on android (I imagine iOS will be similar)
Itās not just the āI refuse to take the vaccine" but no vaccine and refusing to wear a mask because āFreedomā. That I really canāt stand.
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I know several people who are not vaccinated because of medical issues they quite commonly get shit for being āanti vaccersā but they all have adverse reactions to any vaccine they have ever taken.
Same here in Germanyā¦
We had some light lockdowns, but we didnāt have the situation with lots of deaths and military patrolling the streets, so you could only go out for a second to get your groceriesā¦
So people just donāt take it seriously. We have the obvious bunch of crazies, yes, but even worse - a big bunch of people who just donāt really care. Like, why should I get vaccinated, itās not thaaaat dangerous.
And thatās a problem for the whole society, and of course, it makes people angry.
But I agree that we need a better approach, especially to those people. I have the urge to shout at them and just poke them with a rainbow coloured unicorn horn until they finally go get their vaccination, but I know this will be of little to no helpā¦ but I just donāt know how to approach those people at all.
edit: Oh and yes, Iām a bit late, but I miss laughing Rosco as well! 
Completely different. They are not Anti-Vaxers.
Those are the people that need EVERYBODY else to play niceā¦
Like @Zwack said
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Totally.
On the other hand.
I would have no problem with people and their āFreedomā if I, and so many others werenāt paying a heavy heavy price for it. One personās rights end where the next personās begin.
If the anit-vaxxers could find a way to totally isolate themselves from everyone else, then I couldnāt care less whether they got it or not. Itās when they donāt get it, and then insist on being part of my daily life thatās a problem. From my perspective, theyāre forcing me to be exposed to a potentially deadly plague, because of selfish unspecified reasons covered up by a layer of bull shit excuses.
For fuckās sake, this could have all been OVER if everyone had lined up last spring and got a shot.
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Given that you can still get and transmit covid once vaccinated, I donāt think this isnāt true, even if you had 100% vaccination,
Better position likely, but itās not a magic pillā¦ add to that the protection offered by the vaccine isnāt permanent, plus logistically we couldnāt have done it anyways
Tbh statements like that I hear sound like a bit of a psychological defense mechanism, itās easier to blame someone/group for it continuing than face the notion that itās a lot more complicated than just everyone getting a shot
I guess Iām just sick of seeing dehumanizing tactics and hate applauded and spread faster than any virus
Itās both amazing and saddening how quickly it always becomes an āus vs themā and how quickly it becomes ok to dehumanize
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Of course it is, but Iām sure at least some lives could have been saved already if people were less hesitant on getting the shot.
Like I said, Iām totally against āforcedā vaccinations, barely have any vaccinations myself, and Iām always happy when people use their brains and weigh the pros and cons. My only problem in this case is, that I can hardly see anything on the āconā side, and the people refusing to get vaccinated (so, not those who canāt for medical reasons or such) can hardly deliver any arguments. While we have the big, fat āproā of protecting not only ourselves, but basically everyone else as well - yeah, the virus can be spread, even if you are vaccinated, but it is less likely and less dangerous.
While I (obviously) agree with that, do you have any arguments why itās okay not to get vaccinated in this case? Until now, in my environment, I heard medical reasons (which are fine), I heard some scepticism (that can be met with facts), and I heard a lot of stupid nonsense - except for the first case, none of them were valid arguments against a vaccination.
And if people act stupid, I have the right to call that stupid - thatās not dehumanizing. If people risk other people lives because they are afraid that Bill Gates might remote control them, I think I have the right to call them fucking idiots as well.
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Logistically we would be able to vaccinate every adult without contraindications (easily in fact, the infrastructure is already in place). We wouldnāt be able to eradicate the disease yet because children serve as a reservoir population. Until the testing is done and thereās approval for use of the vaccines on children we wonāt eradicate it, so itās not about that.
It boils down to:
Do you want to be minorly inconvenienced in order to save the lives of vulnerable people who are unable to get vaccinated (and yourself)?
The explanations for being against vaccination are unsatisfactory because the real explanation is selfishness. Thatās why itās so upsetting for those who are vaccinated, the inherently selfish nature of the denial is maddening. Add on top of that, the science is in and indicates that not only will you be saving others but youāll be saving yourself by getting it, and to deny that indicates a level of stubborn stupidity seldom exposed in such a glaringly obvious way.
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This is a real good example of two people having a rational discussion. This is good.
My reply would be that we dont need a perfect vaccine. We need each infected person to infect ( on average) less than 1 person. If that happens then the disease runs out of fuel and burns out.
But if I said this to a true anti vaxxer, then the reason would change to something else. Itās just a constant stream of exscuses. Whats really frustrating is when someone (and this HAS happened to me repeatedly) switches to blaming a political scapegoat / adversary.
Those people, whether its nice to say or not, are being irrationally stupid.
And theyāre doing it with my health, well-being and livelihood.
Iām not inclined to be nice to them as a result. Im not trying to coerce them because its blatantly obvios they WILL NOT budge.
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This. I just lost a friend of over 20 years due to his inability to discuss and communicate. It is a lot of āwhataboutismā
This is his go to.
I donāt mind talking politics, but letās talk, not just bounce around cause I made you think.
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as opposed toā¦ rationally stupid? 
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The county I live in managed to hold more big vaccination events than people wanted to attend. Everyone who wanted to be vaccinated could be vaccinated, and then some. So I donāt think itās a logistics issue.
Yes, the polarisation is terrible. But it certainly seems to me that the politicisation of the pandemic has been done by one particular group. Iām not sure why Republicans (in my experience this is the case) donāt want to get the Trump vaccine.
Some of my co-workers are very much anti-vaccine, and yet donāt have any real reason for not taking it, other than āI donāt like getting vaccinationsā.
They would much rather use less well tested, less well approved options for treatment because for whatever reason they donāt trust the vaccine. Although they are happy to point to meta studies which admit their data is of low quality to suggest that such and such an option is āworth takingā.
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Here is a quote from an email I received from a very large healthcare chain in the US.
Getting the COVID vaccine is an important step in stopping the spread of this virus. We know this because over 90% of the patients in our hospitals with COVID have not been vaccinated.
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