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[Not]

@Not

Edit: If only there was a way to measure this… Hmm… Yeah I should shouldn’t I

Field meter pro ordered

[Pilgrimsmaster]

I updated the field meter pro hyperlink, Thanks for the reminder

Also

Good choice.
The Field meter is really good and does MOST of the things, but the Field meter pro version is next level and does ALL of the things

(*****) Field Meter PRO by MidWest Gadgets

Field Meter Pro [image] INTRODUCTION Hammy, not being able to measure the rapid duty cycle on a few devices came up with a solution to that problem, thus the development of the Field Meter Pro by MidWest Gadgets. This unit has evolved to answer the need for a quantitative, repeatable field strength measurement for 13.56 MHz High Frequency (HF) NFC. It’s the next step up from the Non Pro version, adding the critical analogue component. This is the hardware that finally allows us to stop guess…

[Not]

@Pilgrimsmaster

The Field meter is really good and does MOST of the things, but the Field meter pro version is next level and does ALL of the things

To be blunt, 60% of the things I really want to measure are battery powered, so the digital-only field meter would be kinda underwhelming for me.

I hope to document here somewhere the measured power of:

My:
Pixel4a
Pixel8
Pixel9a
Shitty door lock (that does not work with either of my xSeries implants)
Pm3 Easy with a hammy slim mod

Not mine:
iPhone 16
Marriott/Vingcard Door readers

Maybe if we as a community can get a decent list running of what works with what at what power levels and roughly how well, we can give more educated advice to people looking for an implant or [door lock / reader].

Plus hey, maybe we can get a bit of a race going for fun/stupid junk, like most powerful phones from an NFC perspective.

[tac0s]

@Not

I hope to document here somewhere the measured power of:

Have a methodology in mind? From what i have seen on the pro, at point blank it tends to be maxed. I had considered using it for that thing i’m writing but hit that snag. I might have to get my meter in the mix. But that might not help depending on how hammy made it

[ODaily]

Does anybody else remember a discussion about how phillips / norelco was gonna start offering 3d prints of all their service parts?

It’s been awhile, so I looked, and they have only got two parts. Both are guides / combs for their trimmers. They really got my hopes up, not because I need this, but because I wanted to believe a manufacturer was actually not going to be a giant douche for once.

Anywho, pretty sure we got bait and switched, but that’s not gonna make the news like it did when they promised us printable service parts.

See both (underwhelming) parts for yourself. Philips | Printables.com

Don’t know if they overpromised and underdelivered for the hype, or if they were trying to dodge some kind of E.U. regulation(s). Either way, the reality sucketh.

[Hamspiced]

The analogue meter can go pretty high.

I started with 0-3, then maxed that quick, went to 0-5 and still hit the higher end, so I ordered a few more. 0-10, 0-15, 0-30, 0-50. As I got to the higher limit meters I started losing the granular ability to read on the smaller devices. So I stayed with 0-15.

You can always swap out the analogue meter for one that suits your needs the size is pretty standard. I have red locktite on the threads so it’ll be difficult to remove but not impossible.

You can easily connect leads to vm1 and vm2 and run your own volt meter but you’ll need a good one like a fluke that can avg the fast pulses. Mine does it just fine but my chinesium ones can’t.

You can always have fun with this with the diy field generator. Increasing bench power will increase your v/m. I just don’t recommend pushing it past 12v or you’ll risk magic smoke.

I will say, there’s something visceral about using the analogue meter that just itches a tism in a way unknown before.

[Hamspiced]

I have some videos from Np0 and the different readers he was testing as well as NVX we can put in the list.

Don’t know the best way to plot the data but I’m for it .

[Not]

@tac0s

From what i have seen on the pro, at point blank it tends to be maxed.

Hmm

@Hamspiced

You can always swap out the analogue meter for one that suits your needs the size is pretty standard.

Okay I have an idea. Moving to a different meter kinda removes the point of standardization, but another standard unit non-americans have is the “milly metor”. I think if I ask around, I can convince someone from across the border to show me what these milly metors are so I can 3d print a few clips to toss on the antenna end of the field meter. If I play around enough, I might be able to find a distance that helps this use case.

Ofc I gotta wait for USPS to do its thing.

[Hamspiced]

Also I want to add, I think tacos may have a 0-5v one where I switched everything to 0-15v. I can’t recall.

When I mean swap out the analogue meter I mean switch the actual analogue voltmeter garage module. It will still read accurately but it will give you more headroom to play with.

And no worries about units of measure, these measure in volts/meter x10

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Hamspiced

Don’t know the best way to plot the data but I’m for it .

Maybe it could be recorded in the Matrix?!
If we add the readers in there, We could simply add in a Row… with Field Meter Pro Max Voltage .
That would capture it and prevent doubling up.
It would be good to have a single point of information.

I think we need to add some more matrix editors.

Amal has the ability to add editors

Give me a bit, (I just need to book some flights, rental car and accommodation, so I’ll be a bit…)
THEN
I’ll set up a poll for volunteers

[Not]

@Hamspiced

I think tacos may have a 0-5v one where I switched everything to 0-15v. I can’t recall.

@Pilgrimsmaster

It would be good to have a single point of information.

@Pilgrimsmaster

Maybe it could be recorded in the Matrix?!

Yeah, makes sense to me. If I find that I’m maxing out the FMP with multiple readers, I might still make some spacers. At that point we could pick one (say, 10mm) and put a column in for that specified distance. Hypothetically at least.

@Pilgrimsmaster

THEN
I’ll set up a poll for volunteers

That was in google sheets, yes? I’d need to set up a gmail account, but I’d be down.

[enginerd]

[Not]

How would that even happen

[Pilgrimsmaster]

[enginerd]

That is, I mean was, a Mitutoyo…

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@enginerd

was, a Mitutoyo

Are you familiar with the Japanes art of Kintsugi?

Might not be accurate, but will be pretty

[ODaily]

Want to comment. Too angry.

[Hamspiced]

@Play2BReal welcome to the forums

[Play2BReal]

haha thank you!
been lurking here for a bit and trying to learn enough to post and be able to help people!

[amal]

@Play2BReal

trying to learn enough to post and be able to help people!