The anti🚫-derailment🚃 & thread🧵 hijacking🔫 thread🧵 ⁉

[Eriequiet]

So what about that flex you put in a few days ago?

[amal]

@Eriequiet

So what about that flex you put in a few days ago?

[Eriequiet]

Dammit , @amal your gifs, I just can’t beat them

[Pilgrimsmaster]

I both love and hate how you do that Amal.

I hate that we don’t know what it is, But I think it is better that we don’t know.

But I love that you protect us from getting our hopes up and it potentially failing therefore a disapointed community.

I also love that you use yourself as a guinea pig to test a lot of your products before releasing or even mentioning them.
It says alot about your quality of business approach and standards.

I hate to say it, but I am happy not knowing and I will leave you to your testing.
I’m sure if it works we will find out in due course.
Keep doing what you do.
Good luck with it.

[Eriequiet]

To be clear, I understand and respect why Amal isn’t telling
(Also I got a vibe of possible NDA based on a “I’m not allowed to talk about it yet” comment he made live

…all that being said, I’d respect him more if he told me

[anon3825968]

@amal

No apex flex… just an ntag213 prototype thing in my finger… it has a green led as part of the L/C circuit with the chip and some glow paint on top too. A one off really.

@amal

Even i don’t have access to the apex flex yet but soon. I want perfection here so I’m going through multiple iterations of the antenna with @Satur9 to get max performance

You mean to say that particular implant job is R&D testing?

Wow! That’s dedication. I would have implanted dead animals or something.

[Satur9]

We can’t really say we’re confident in the products if we don’t implants them in ourselves. That’s the biohacker ethic at work. This isn’t primarily a direct to consumer retail situation. We’re all in on this grand experiment together.

[anon3825968]

I get that, and I certainly get that you or Amal might want to test a finalized product on yourselves. But for casual R+D testing, I’m pretty sure a pig leg would be accurate enough a model.

Having said that, I can see how testing a payment implant at the supermarket with a pig leg would be a problem

[Eriequiet]

The problem is they probably want it to be an “active” limb
Hate to say it but the flexnext probably would have survived a super long time in a dead pig leg, because it wasn’t a coating failure, it was a mechanical one

And testing in living animals is probably not worth the bureaucratic nightmare

Plus it’s not cool on some levels so it should probably be minimized

[Eriequiet]

@Satur9

We’re all in on this grand experiment together.

So does this mean that since science prefers multiple data points, the prototype is in more than just Amal?

Btw, I genuinely have no idea who is actually part of DT besides Amal and Michele doing shopping

I think you @Satur9 are also but it seems vague where the line… can you explain at all?’

[Satur9]

Amal and Michelle are the only staff at Dangerous Things. Anything I do to help with DT products is one of those “I have a guy for that” situations. Amal’s got a few of those. He’s just one man, can’t go it alone when there’s so many of us biohackers counting on him for safe and reliable mods.

Julio, Fraggersparks, Amal, Michelle and I are part of Vivokey, which is a separate company targeted at a completely different market than DT. If we want more people to accept biohacking we’ll need to make it appeal to a wider audience by expanding the applications and making the barrier to entry lower for less technical users. More people interested means more leverage for the big things like getting EMV onboard.

As you’ve seen with the Titan campaign more interest also means more capital available for higher quality mods, so we’re all working towards this together. I’m sure if we’re successful some observers might think that we’re in it for the cash, especially with the potential scale an endeavor like this could rocket off to without warning. I firmly believe based on years of experience with Amal that the goal of making biohacking more accessible and safer takes priority, which is the only reason I’ve stuck around and made some sacrifices.

This community we’ve created is great and I hope you’ll all stick around to help out and see what lies ahead.

[Eriequiet]

@Satur9

some observers might think that we’re in it for the cash

Honestly no, it’s much better than that

I was having issues telling if people were directly involved or simply that passionate about it

Either way, now I know

[anon3825968]

@Eriequiet

The problem is they probably want it to be an “active” limb
Hate to say it but the flexnext probably would have survived a super long time in a dead pig leg, because it wasn’t a coating failure, it was a mechanical one

Well, not all tests test everything. I was more thinking of range (i.e. parasitic capacitance of flesh) and, like you said, coating failure. Mechanical failure would have showed up if Amal had stressed the implant for fatigue without a pig leg. But that requires a machine and some time.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@amal

Hah yeah naming isn’t my best skill

if that’s the case, I hope your wife got to make that decision for your kids.

The world doesn’t need any

Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii Graafstra
or
Number 16 Bus Shelter Graafstra

I shit you not, ACTUAL children’s names (minus the Graafstra bit) given by idiot parents

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@JennyMcLane

I love to have a flexNTAG213

Can I ask what your use case is?
NTAG213 is 144bytes and NTAG216 is 888bytes
Is for some “Tasker” function
Or Amiibo ( not sure if that is only NTAG215 )
Or is it really just for the Blinky with a little user storage

No need to answer if you don’t want, I’m just curious of what good applications they can do that a 216 can’t do equally well.

[JennyMcLane]

Just having it - love to collect more chips.
My dream is to reach 30 implants this year.

[yeka]

@Pilgrimsmaster

Or is it really just for the Blinky with a little user storage

@Pilgrimsmaster

I’m just curious of what good applications they can do that a 216 can’t do equally well.

It’s just that there is no 216 with a LED.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@yeka

It’s just that there is no 216 with a LED.

Yeah thats what I thought.
That’s Occam’s Blinky

the most obvious answer is the LED one.