Pretty sure every single cell phone and piece of tech creates a serious ethical problem somewhere in the worldā¦ from mining practices employed for every lithium battery in the world to tech waste destroying communitiesā¦ Iām sure we are all guilty, and you canāt research or boycott your way around this problem. The only way is to make your opinion known to the company, try to amplify that voice (often using the very tech that encompasses the problem), and ultimately try to create political pressure to change laws where possible.
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I totally agree with that, and also with the point that itās nearly inevitable to buy stuff that has seriously problematic backgrounds.
Problem I see is that a lot of people donāt even care, and that way, nothing changesā¦
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I apologize, my response was ethically incorrect, as it seems the collective opinion is that you should definitely not use Apple Pay or Apple Cash.
On another note,
I worked for a California company called Stion for about 8 weeks, the making of a batch of solar panels creates a full tanker load of cancer causing waste. The real messed up part about it is that of the batch, only half were good enough to sell. What did they do with the bad ones? You would be correct if you guessed they go to the landfill to further pollute the planet. I never purchased the product and I never returned any of my paychecks, but after working with and being around those chemicals, I have a pretty good feeling I lost a few years off my life.
Oh okay, so any ethical topics lead to affronted answers as well now?
I just said that nothing will change if people donāt care about the stuff they do. I didnāt say you should or should not use Apple products - would be ridiculous, since I am pretty aware that other companies are not neccessarily ābetterā. I just stated one could maybe care about that.
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Oh, okay, so affronted answers lead to affronted answers as well now? 
I was going to respond to that but your answer was good. I wasnāt saying that Apple was worse than anyone else, in fact I believe I said the opposite.
At least as importantly in this discussion is the fact that Apple Pay doesnāt have the reach of some other solutions. That however is a matter for DT to decide on.
I personally refuse to research every company I want to purchase from or defend myself for purchasing or using those products. I donāt have the time or the energy.
I never said didnāt care about the stuff they do. I only said I do not care to defend Apple or get in anyone feelings.
I donāt agree with child labor or condone it, the question/discussion wasnāt originally about a child labor. It was Eyeuxās opinion on Apple that brought everyoneās fangs out on the subject.
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I wasntā going to beat on a dead horseā¦ but you kinda handed me this one in a silver plateā¦
Kinda proved my point thereā¦ 
Sorry, couldnāt pass that one! 
Now, Jokes asideā¦
I would love to still be able to believe in such statements.
But even if we lived in such a wonderful world, comma got the nail on the head:
Also when a company is so bigā¦
They can break the laws of one country only within their offices in another country where itās either legal or corrupt enough so that no one cares.
There is no organ in the entire world able to actually police and enforce that.
I think the brunt of the backlash came from the āI donāt careā or āif it were trueā portions of your comment.
But as I said on the original postā¦ āI hate appleās practicesā is my personal opinion. You do you! >.o
Also I donāt see a real alternative which isnāt also destructive. soā¦
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Man, my attempts to derail this are not going anywhere, so I guess now a complete retelling of the story of Operation Mincemeat. (Retold in the book and film āthe man who wasnāt thereā)
Well, maybe not, but that is a really interesting story. Pretty much any story about the XX committee seems to be worth listening to though.
I really appreciate your video though.
Love that song! And used it in so many situations already! XD
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I was in my local hardware store and found that the āchild safetyā section includes Mace and Pepper spray. Is this to keep us safe from Children, or for their safety?
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Point of clarification
Mace is a brand 99% of the time now
That is still pepperspray or oleoresin capsicum
Mace in the old sense is CS gas, aka tear gas
Good deal of the time mace is illegal, (except sometimes in a oc/cs mixture)
True, it is Mace brand pepper spray.
Does the CS in CS gas stand for Child Safety?
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No it stands for CfuckIcantpronouncethisShit
chlorobenzalmalononitrile
Cliff notes on actual differences in effect and application
OC or pepperspray, is literally that more or less, itās extracted and concentrated pepper oil
Chemically itās naturally and tricks your nerves into believing that your eyes are on fire and your face is being burned
Effects surface mucus membranes, lips eyes nose, mild irritation on regular skin
Oil based so washing off is problematic, and pretty much no way to chemically neutralize it, it just runs its course for 30-60 minutes
CS gas also known as hard-to-pronounce chemical,
Is synthetic, mild nerve agentā¦ primarily effects lungs, triggering a burning sensation along with dramatic production of mucus, mild skin irritation, but can be washed off easier than OC
Think of CS as a beefed up onionspray
Dog spray, commonly thought of as OC or CS, can sometimes be an offshoot known as CN gas which is more effective agains canines but less so against humans
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I want a āvaxxed & chippedā shirt.
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I like the ideaā¦
I have to drive by bus regularly, and I was always a bit surprised when people backed away from cute doggies thereā¦ and then I realized that everytime someone decides to place their child next to me in the bus, I react in pretty much the same way 
One day, I guess Iād say in a perfectly polite voice ācould you please take your child away, my dog is afraid of childrenā. Still missing a dog for that, butā¦^^
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