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Does anyone have any real world experience with a giant Qi charging mat? Something that can charge 3-4 devices at a time, no matter where they are slapped down? I’m looking for something around 12 x 24 inches (31x62cm ish)

Damn, are you planning to have an LED screen on your chest?


Haha naa much more mundane… just want to plop phones down lazily with no regard for positioning

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Subdermal phones? Lol :joy:

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I think that Apple tried something like that but smaller and failed. So now they added magnets to help with alignment…

IMHO, Qi charging is still better than fumbling around looking for a cable. Even if you sometimes have to find the correct location to get it to work.

Wait, are we going to get a wireless charging bed for cyborgs at some point? :wink:

Make a tray with phone sized cut-outs. Each cutout has a Qi charger underneath it.

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Someone is clearly smarter than me…

Nope, just deal with that kind of thing every day.

I make fixtures and tooling in a machine shop for a big name manufacturer. Alot of my work is about making it bullet-proof simple so the poor idiots can’t screw it up. They will anyway, but I try to slow 'em down abit.


They already have it for birds.

Although I surelly agree with you in principle, I do run away from Qi chargers and smash any that find itself in my residence.

This is solely because I have negative trust in the Qi charger industry:

  • Never found a single one which follows standards correctly
  • Read way too many horror stories about them
  • We do have members here whose implants got murdered by Qi chargers
  • I had plenty of cards murdered by proximity to shitty Qi chargers

I do love the concept though…
But the only time I actually used one was to intentionally murder my security badge so I could be escorted into the security room at work. (oh, what won’t I do to prove a point) :sweat_smile:

I’ve been unable to kill T5577 chips with any of my Qi chargers but I know that xLEDs are not as rugged.

I wonder if I’m just lucky and bought half decent stuff or if this chip is rugged enough to take the abuse?

Can be both. Can be pairing. Can be current.

I do have a Blackview charger which works with 4.5A current (I miss that phone. 1 week’s worth of charge in under 2 hours)… And I keep a samsung Qi charger at work. combo both and even DF Classic badges go boom! :star_struck:

Same trick does not work with an apple Qi charger I tested… but that same charger did accidentally murder a Mifare classic fob (which isn’t even HF) while plugged to the plug that came with it. (I’m still not sure how the heck that happened)

It all depends on a lot of factors aligning. :thinking:

PS: not saying Qi chargers will murder an implant.
Just that if they do not follow standards, they may. It would need to be blatantly off from the standards though…
Yet my experience shows that more often than not Standards within Qi chargers seem more like a myth…

[Edit: fixed a product name typo… automode brain] =P

and my personal favorites:

  • With devices with a metal casing, it heats up the device like crazy - sometimes to the point of melting plastic.
  • Highly inefficient power transfer. The Earth’s resources don’t need this.

All that for a little bit of convenience.

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Very good points as well!!

Sort of…

I mean… I agree with you there!
I just don’t blame the “wireless charging” for these issues.

It could be built well and the tech could benefit from a lot of research and fine tunning, but it’s a great concept! and one which could go far beyond just a bit of convenience.

Yet, we’re talking about a tech which has existed questionably even before AC delivery/distribution became a thing… and almost nothing has been invested in it’s development… Worst, most companies just make it into the cheapest gimmick possible all in name of quick cash… :sleepy:

That’s the thing: I don’t know that it can. I mean wire power transfer is 99.xx% efficient (depending on the gauge and length of the wire of course). With induction, you can only get close to that with a properly designed transformer with a core. Qi is a poor efficiency air-gapped transformer: it’ll always waste power on account of the fact that it needs to be convenient.

With the current state of affairs… I tend to agree with you.
But there are other approaches to wireless than Qi. Not nescessarily fully developed and commercial yet… but could (should) have been better researched.

Yet, my point is a tad bit more Idealistic…
Looking into research we have all around it, I feel like it’s not so much of a dream to have a city where handheld devices need barely any battery since the city grid would both grant them signal and charge.
The same city grid which would power a network of electric vehicles which would be constantly running also because their displacement would also feed energy back into the grid, etc…
This would still have issues with the efficiency and etc… but those would be offset by gains all around it.

The way I see it, AC is like a bitmap image. great for small applications, scales predictably… but once it goes beyond a certain point it’s just too expensive to scale up.
While “wireless” is a Vector image. Way too expensive for small scale and takes a lot of planning for something big… but after a certain growth it pays off and scales up naturally.

Hope all my peeps in the southern U.S. stayed safe last night. Weather last night had a death toll of over 100 in some nearby states.


Really heavy rain, but no tornadoes. SW Arkansas. I think the worst of it hit north and east of here. @MegaSTEAM , how’d you fare?

Spent about an hour in the storm shelter but no damage near us. Coyotes went nuts when the sirens went off- didn’t know there were so many so close!

If you don’t know Ian Davis, I encourage you to visit his Youtube channel:

To summarize, the man lost 4 fingers and has been hard at work for 2 years devising various mechanical and electromechanical prosthetic devices for himself.

His latest video of him using the latest iteration of his fully mechanical prosthesis is particularly fascinating from the point of view of human augmentation. Take a watch:

What’s fascinating is his comments at the end of the video where he explains he surprises himself using his hand naturally and without thinking, like he used it before it got injured, and how he finds more and more ways to make the device useful to him in everyday life.

To me, the man is living the magical human augmentation moment we here have all experienced in some way or other (I hope), when the technology blends in so much it becomes part of your life and almost part of you.

One may argue that it’s not human augmentation but rehabilitation in his case, because he’s going from 90% towards 100% abilities, while we try to go over 100%. But really I reckon it’s exactly the same process: I don’t know about you, but I haven’t lost any body part yet I feel I can relate to what he’s reporting.

Anyhow, I find it so cool to be able to watch the man’s epiphany live on Youtube - almost live!