Like?
Really?
Like Schlonger / Pac asking me to stop âinsulting the disabled communityâ or whatever when I say âretarded someoneâ. Lol Me, whoâs spend most of my life working for charitable organizations for the disabled
âRetarded somethingâ is an expression. A set phrase. Maybe from yesteryear, maybe itâs not terribly great to use it today. But it takes one particularly disigenuous woke activist to disregard that and start pissing people off over it.
Or the same Schlonger / Pac constantly reminding Pilgrims that this-or-that other woke has declared they want to be called a kettle instead of a man or a woman, and their preferred pronouns are that or it or whatever nonsense - with that little smiley that hides the aggression and gives me type-2.
Okay we get it. But Pilgrims canât help it apparently and when he sees a man or a woman, he says he or she like a normal human being who speaks normal modern English as taught in school the world over. Leave him be already.
Etc etc⊠Those are just the recent examples of woke microaggression that comes to my mind. There are others, and I canât be bothered to look them up. But it never ends.
My point being, they just wonât leave people who have traditional world views and canât really help it in peace.
Why is it a micro aggression when they ask you to not say something,
But not a micro aggression when you say something they find offensive?
I think you are overthinking it
Weâve debated this before,
I donât think asking you to not use a slur is âwokeâ
Thatâs just asking you to be a decent human being
I am a decent human being: Iâm leaving this place to you lot. You can all be as polite and respectful to one another and to the world at large as you feel you need to be. I wonât be here to bother you no more. Because if you think Iâm gonna play along with all that nonsense, youâre dreaming. I admire George Carlin way too much to give in to that crap.
This concludes the discussion as far as Iâm concerned.
So long.
Iâve stayed mostly on the sidelines of this, but I had to say something at this point.
The core of the problem is treating people with respect. Iâm not non-binary, nor am I trans. However, I can still empathize, and put in the tiniest bit of effort to respect their wishes. Itâs not hard. Iâve mistakenly used the wrong pronouns with someone before. Iâve never had a person get mad at me for that, because Iâve done it out of forgetfulness or lack of knowledge, never malice. They simply corrected me, I took down a mental note for later, and we moved on as friends.
I also take issue with this idea of âthis is the way things used to be done, so therefore thereâs nothing wrong with me doing that thing nowâ. Iâm younger, sure, but when I was growing up, gay was still constantly used as a derogatory, as was the aforementioned term for the mentally disabled. The f-slur was used as well for gay people.
I used those terms that way, and to be honest, I struggled a lot with trans people early in my childhood. I didnât have the ability to relate, and as a lot of my peers mocked them, I admittedly did the same. I grew up in an environment where no one I knew was openly trans (although many came out later in life).
However, since Iâm a human being with autonomy and the capacity for introspection, as I expanded my worldview and matured, I changed. I try my best to be as kind to people as I can (until theyâre not deserving of it), but even then, I never disrespect them as a person, or disrespect their identity. I looked at my past behavior, thought âhuh, that was a real dickish thing to do/say, wonât do that againâ, and that was it.
Human brains arenât read-only, they can adapt. When my great uncle continually used sexist, homophobic, derogatory language towards my female cousin (who is bi), and got angry when I told him I was gay, sure that was the state of things when he grew up. If it was the '70s, that would have completely fit the status quo. I think itâs true that itâs hard to judge people outside of the context of their times. However, if they refuse to adapt out of respect for their family, friends, or even the majority of others in the world, that makes them a shitty person. My great uncle was/is shitty, and I cut him out of my life, as did several other family members.
When those âtraditional world viewsâ intrude on their ability to be respected as who they are, yeah, it shouldnât be left in peace. It reminds me all too much of evangelical christians who swear that theyâre being discriminated against for their views. They arenât, people donât like them because theyâre pressing their fucked up standards onto other people, and refusing to respect the way they live their lives.
âTraditionalâ in this case is stuck in the past, in a time where we were harsher to each other. I would like to thing that as much as things can be shitty right now, weâre still at a far net positive compared to even 20 years ago.
I get that people here have disrespected you, for various reasons, but the whole âI can be offensive, deal with itâ combined with not taking any criticism just makes you seem thin-skinned. Willing to dish it out, but not take it. You want us to accept you for the offensive, non-PC man that you are, while simultaneously refusing to accept and respect members of this community (and the discord you hate so much).
I respect you in a technical manner, and think you have a lot of good to offer. Itâs a shame to throw potential collaborators away like this, people that should be your peers. As an example, since theyâre people youâve taken issue with, Satur9 and pac are brilliant people who I would love to work with on any number of projects, but that can never happen if you canât have respect. They have technical knowledge I donât have, and I have knowledge they donât have. In a community like this, collaboration could be such a terrific tool to advance this hobby/field, but thatâs not always possible due to shit like this.
I see youâve claimed âSo longâ while I was typing this, but whatever, still posting.
I love this funky little hamster, look at him go!
Wow, that was quite the ride, I have MANY comments to make, but busy at the moment.
Just quickly, If you have a problem with somebody, and there are obviously some (duh)
Simple solution
Rosco purely as an example, I couldnât mute myself
Oh and
I AM CERTAINLY NOT MUTING ROSCO
Nice work Mr. Diffuser
I just genuinely like the hamster gif, makes my day every time I remember this forum has it
90 posts were split to a new topic: AI sentience & human procreation
As an aside, apparently I missed a day yesterday as I checked DT too late in the day (but before midnight local time) so it will be at least a year before I achieve DevoteeâŠ
Found this on facebook the other night, gave me a good laugh. I immediately thought of @Coma 's power button.
i like the ben franklin comment the best - honestly, dude is getting the exact reaction he wants posting that on FB. like me, freaking the normies is hella satisfying.
In other news, itâs apparently been exactly a year since I got my first implants! My implants are one of the very few things I have where the honeymoon period never really wore off. Theyâre still just as exciting to me today as they were a year ago.
Iâm the opposite of you and want to be left alone with regards to my bodymods. And Iâm the guy who wants a full robot body that looks entirely mechanical.
But Iâm not going to limit myself in exchange of being accepted by the normies.
Which reminds meâŠWelcome back @Eyeux
I guess your negative reaction is a positive reaction
or vise-versa
Boo!
I had a strep / brochitus tag team recently
Pretty sure I would have taken mild Covid happily
Uhuuu!! Good to be back!!
But I still got a bunch of travelling around to do and a couple of big projects to hand in⊠so not sure if I wonât vanish again for a whileâŠ