The anti🚫-derailment🚃 & thread🧵 hijacking🔫 thread🧵 ⁉

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@SnarkBe
I liked your decision on the filter
“must meet ALL criteria”
@Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha
I like how you incorporated it onto your page

@Pilgrimsmaster

I’ll add a Watched word to “Chips Stuff”

DONE

you might need to refresh browser

Chip Stuff

Not case sensitive

CHiP StuFf

@Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha

I’ll leave distributing and searching up to you if you don’t mind,

CHIP STUFF by @Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha

I @Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha am super cool and clever, and I made this supe cool and clever Dangerous Things Implant quick reference and implant look up page. I totally wrote this myself and NOT Pilgrimsmaster impersonating me Here’s the link and a quick preview https://loastedtoafinc.com/ [Screenshot_20230610_143435_Brave]

[Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha]

Without making any form of commitment or promise, how would anyone feel about drop down menus like this for searching the compatibility matrix?

https://loastedtoafinc.com/compat.php

[Pilgrimsmaster]

I like the idea, but it looks like a lot of work and would feel bad for you “going it alone”

I’d be happy to help where I can

The images on the current spreadsheet for example, I had to smallify due to the spreadsheet running like a dog with large images, so a copy and paste would yield less than optimal results (they would maybe work as thumb nails.

The other thing I would say is, I still think a lookup database would be the “best” option, so I would hate for time to be wasted doing this, only for it to get outdated, but in the same breath, I dont see that happening anytime soon.

[StarGazer1258]

@amal

a quiz / questionnaire structure doesn’t do much to educate and in fact many of the pathways require them to go do something like test something or research or post photos and ask questions on the forum.

Perhaps on each step/question it could have instructions and examples of how to identify each common system. I recognize that not all systems could be easily identified by a diy system, but surely a good majority could? If the user says “none of these” or “not sure” then it could direct them to more options or the forum.

[Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha]

@Pilgrimsmaster

a lookup database

How do you mean? Like a search engine?

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@amal

then we can start solutioning

• If
• Then
• Else

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha

How do you mean?

Micrsoft Access

[StarGazer1258]

@Pilgrimsmaster

Micrsoft Access

Ew.

[amal]

[Eriequiet]

@Pilgrimsmaster

Could we add “wiki” to the list?

The wiki category is a good mine but very hidden

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Eriequiet

The wiki category is a good mine but very hidden

Yeah, you’re correct, it is tucked away.
It is currently a sub category under DT Info

Amal set this up, so I wouldn’t want to change it without his go ahead

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Eriequiet

Could we add “wiki” to the list?

Did you mean add “Wiki” , to link to

Chip compatibility matrix - Google Sheets

As the title suggests, We have a Google Sheets Spreadsheet compiled by, and for the DT (and Vivokey) Forum members. It is a comprehensive, yet not an exhaustive list of products and the DT / Vivokey products they are compatible with. [Screenshot_20200708-204900_Sheets] [image] It is a living document, as we continue to add to and update as we go, Therefore, if you see an error, omission, please post a reply in this thread below. The more information you provide the easier it will make it f…

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[Az_F]

I’m late to the party but to me if any of the big tech companies were to sell implants to their customers they would sell the full package: the lock, the chip, the app and the installation.

I know you really want the process to be educational but the average customer runs away as soon as they realize they have to learn something
I would instead offer a streamlined experience with occasional hints that educational resources exist. Tease curiosity without being a teacher. I think Pink Floyd made it pretty clear
Also make use of media and pop culture. I’m not sure if that YouTube project is still a thing but it definitely should!

The analogy with the mobile phone market is the best imo so I would definitely take some inspiration from what phone brands do.

Also it won’t be long before you have some legit competition on the implant market. While that might sound bad for DT I think it will be very beneficial. It will inevitably drive innovation and will also organically create niches for each company to fill and specialize in rather that try and do everything at once.
It will also be much more appealing for customers. A single company doing that one weird thing is quite unsettling for the customer while a whole ecosystem gives legitimacy to the field and sparks discussion.

@amal

How do we set up a step-by-step for new people entering the game that is intuitive and well, isn’t walls and walls of text? Is there a practical way?

Assuming Android NFC capabilities tend to expand and LF tends to fade away then a single app will eventually do the trick… Scan your tag or scanner, tap buy, get the implant and copy it with the same app.
It’s not an immediate solution but I believe this is where we’re going

[Eriequiet]

@Pilgrimsmaster

@Eriequiet

Could we add “wiki” to the list?

Did you mean add “Wiki” , to link to

I meant, adding “wiki” to the keyword list that gets automatically hyperlinked

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Eriequiet

I meant, adding “wiki” to the keyword list that gets automatically hyperlinked

like this

Wiki

[StarGazer1258]

Anyone else use Reddit here? If not, ysk that there’s a protest that’s going on from the 12th to the 14th and potentially onwards due to Reddit’s stance on their recent anti-3rd-party-app API changes. These changes pose a serious risk to anyone who uses a 3rd-party app and I strongly suggest you support the protest if you can by not posting, commenting, voting on, or even viewing if can, any content on Reddit.

[SnarkBe]

I spend a crazy amount of time on Reddit. They want to push users to their crappy app by charging an insane amount of money to third-party apps using their API. I’m not sure the blackout will do anything though. But I know I don’t want to use their app, it sucks. I’ve been using Sync for Reddit for as long as I’m using Reddit.

[Eyeux]

@Az_F

I’m late to the party

Ditto!!

@Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha

how would anyone feel about drop down menus like this for searching the compatibility matrix?

That’s interesting.

Then I add that to…

@amal

a flow chart is actually a really great visualizer

Which is also great!

A Flow chart is often the easiest way to guide a noob into making a good decision.
A Menu-Maze is often the easiest way for someone with prior knowledge to find an exact reference.

But more than that, they both have distinctive advantages and flaws:

• [+] Flow Charts are great for a short journey with loads of options. (i.e. “deep” or “wide”), because each question allows you to skip the majority of parallel options and focus only on what matters.

• [-] Flow Charts lose efficiency if they have way too many steps to go through (i.e. “long”), because then it gets confusing and if you want to double check something you can get lost.

• [+] Menu-Mazes are Great when the flow would have too many steps (i.e. “long”), because you skip them and can work directioned (if you know what you’re doing)

• [-] Menu-mazes lack efficiency if there are too many parallel options (i.e. “deep” or “wide”), since then each drawer becomes too big to read.

So I ask myself…
How deep is this Matryoshka of options?
And how long is it?

[Eriequiet]

Bingo

Now it’ll be super easy to point new users to the wiki when they are ready to sponge up all the good info

[Pilgrimsmaster]

wikipedia

I’ll need put in a fix for this, I don’t think it will be very twiki