Biomagnet Questions

[peps_win]

Just got a couple of questions regarding the magnet implants.

1. Can I implant The Titan at home on my own?
2. Which Implant is best for sensing and what makes it better at it?
3. Which implant gives me more of a benefit?

Thanks for the help

[mfries18]

@peps_win

Can I implant The Titan at home on my own

“Can” you? Yes, you technically can, but should you? The answer is almost always no. This install requires scalpel work to be installed in the finger, which would be very difficult with one hand, and having a second person wouldn’t help a ton as they would likely get in the way more than anything. A rejection would suck, and with it being your finger(one of the areas with highest nerve density), it would be extremely painful if your body did reject it/infection developed. With scalpel work you are creating a lot more exposure to infectious organisms than a x-series implant. I’ll also add, scalpel work is difficult , and requires lots of experience and muscle memory. If you have an exacto blade(or an actual scalpel you’re willing to ruin), try cutting just the skin off a grape, then try it with only one hand. A grape is more difficult, but it gives you an idea of the precision require. I’m a medical professional with years of experience with aseptic procedures and large needles, and I’m still seeking a professional because of the high risk associated with this install. You do you, but please at least consider my advice.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

As for your other questions,

Do you already have a Titan magnet, or just trying to get info before purchasing? If you don’t have one, it will be a while before they are available again as the manufacturing process is very expensive and difficult, they are looking into alternative manufacturing processes now

Magnets! Magnets! Magnets! ( R&D )

So, in the possibility of being attacked for ressurrecting an old thread. I’ve been thinking about biomagnets a lot and, I don’t think we should be stopping R&D on magnets just because the TiTAN released. The TiTAN has the problem of being expensive and hard to manufacture. I don’t think that’s necessarily a problem as I’m willing to pay $600 in total for a sixth sense that will last theoretically forever but, that doesn’t mean I don’t think this forum can develop something that lasts a long tim…

Right now with what’s available, your best bet is an xG3 V2, it’s not the best for sensing, but you’ll still get some. Its an x-series install so it’s much easier to find an installer too.

What are you looking to get out of a biomagnet? So I can fully answer your question

[maple]

I mean, you CAN put a TITAN in by yourself, but unless you have experience and are decently skilled, it’s likely a bad idea, all things considered.

If you’re insistent on doing one yourself, something from the x-series like the xG3 v2 is probably a better place to start. Again, it’s probably an even better idea to get someone to install it for you, but if you had to pick one to do yourself at home, an injectable is probably a better idea.

Do note that the xG3 v1 was recalled very recently, so if you’re shopping around outside of the DT site or previously purchased one, be aware of that.

[peps_win]

Thanks. I don’t really know what I would like if I’m being honest. I think sensing would be really cool but lifting is more of a party trick.

[invalid_signal]

The xG3v2 definitely does have sensing, just not the same as the Titan in a fingertip.
The Titan is out of stock though. Like @mfries18 said, it’ll probably be a while before it comes back.

[maple]

I think a good place to start would be to do what a lot of people do if they’re curious about a magnet implant for sensing–superglue a neodymium magnet to your finger for a few days and see if you like the sensing. In the meantime, look here for installers in your area and dig around the forums here for people’s experiences with getting them installed.

Getting the titan installed is definitely more involved than the xG3, so take into consideration both the difference in difficulty of finding an installer, as well as the procedure itself.

[amal]

We do not condone self-installs… That’s just a defacto standard statement I have to make. So people have already talked about trying to DIY a Titan install and the thing that seems to be overlooked is that doing the scalp of work and all of that is of course difficult on your own or with an unskilled partner, but what is even more difficult than stabbing yourself with a knife is properly suturing after you’re done. Compared to stabbing your flesh, properly and cleanly and aseptically suturing yourself is basically impossible.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@maple

Do note that the xG3 v1 was recalled very recently

Good thing to mention, but Not really a recall, more of a safety advisory

Safety Advisory - xG3 v1

Hello everyone, this is a safety advisory for the xG3 v1 axially magnetized biomagnet implant. To be clear, this is not a recall, just a conveyance of facts so you can make better informed decisions. We have had our 3rd report in as many years of a failure of an xG3 v1. This report is confirmed and has the same failure mode as the previous two reports, which is that one of the end caps of the xG3 v1 has been cleanly broken off in vivo, exposing the tip of the magnet inside to the body. Because …

@amal

properly and cleanly and aseptically suturing yourself is basically impossible.

John Rambo would disagree

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@peps_win

Just got a couple of questions regarding the magnet implants.

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[maple]

Ah thanks for the catch! My mistake!

[Hamspiced]

i take it steri-strips are also not reccomended in leu of sutures?

[ChuckyCheegles]

Idk Amal’s stance on this but I can say that you don’t even really need sutures for most Titan installs. I used steri-strips for my Titan and it’s healing great. A lot of people use superglue even. As long as you can keep the skin together and keep the magnet from coming back out you’ll be gucci coochie.

Edit: My Titan was implanted 3 weeks ago and I no longer keep anything on it. It’s just a lil scab now.

[Hamspiced]

well it looks like i have quite some time to contemplate how i will install a titan if i ever am able to get one

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@ChuckyCheegles

A lot of people use superglue even

Super glue does work, but it’s not reccomended; its more of an emergency suture.
I’ve used it myself, it was successful, but I still wouldn’t recommend it.

There are proper medical skin glues that are more like rubber cement, there are different types that last for different periods of time.
When glues are used for the skin, you want to make sure the glue only goes ON the skin, not in the wound.

Even then, a butterfly stitch is a far better option, and even better with tegaderm over the top of that.

[amal]

@Hamspiced

take it steri-strips are also not reccomended in leu of sutures

Steri-strips are absolute garbage. That said, plenty of people use them. I would not pack them in a med kit or anything. The moment they get sweaty, bloody, wet, you look at them sideways, someone three blocks away sneezes and a couple droplets of snot land on you… they turn to useless mush.

If you’re going to want to secure something like in lieu of sutures then clean the skin very well with alcohol to remove oils and excess moisture… Yes alcohol mixes with water and effectively dries things out… do that and then put some quality butterfly bandages on and you’re going to be in a far better situation than relying on steri-strips.

Steri-strips have one function… to cover a proper suture when you don’t have a proper bandage.

In short, I hate them.

[Hamspiced]

Not at all to discount your experiences but steri-strips helped me out in a bind last year. I was re-framing some doors in my house and a very sharp chisel fell from the top of the door and landed on my arm. steri-strips are what i had on hand and after shoving the fat back in place i used the strips on a rather bloody arm and they held great until i finished with the rest of the doors and was able to see a doc. doc cleaned it and threw some stitches in but it was far better than just throwing a butterfly bandage on for the time.

[invalid_signal]

Butterfly bandages worked well on my forearm install after I pulled the stitches. Though I did wrap the area with compression wrap as well. They got some sweat on them, but I tried to keep them out of precip, climbed off a tower when it started raining to protect them. I like butterflies, but will always throw a wrap on them if I can.

[amal]

@Hamspiced

landed on my arm. steri-strips are what i had on hand

Absolutely. Use what you got… they’re better than nothing. Given the choice though, I’d use something better to keep my cyberbits inside me after installation.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@amal

cyberbits

Official Technical terminology?

[Coma]

@amal

Steri-strips are absolute garbage

I don’t know what kind of strips are used in the US, but the ones I get in German pharmacies are just great, especially for fingertip stuff when you can wrap them around (not too tightly, obviously). They have to be long enough, because the ends tend to get loose after some time, but I really like to use them when my sutures are out to keep it all a bit more secure for some days. I’m tempted to use them instead of sutures, but I think that might be problematic, hygiene-wise…