This is the length oft the magnet. Seems to fit easily… at least that’s my opinion.
I’m talking from second-hand information here, but I’ve heard from a few people that have done xG3 installs, that with fingertips the diameter is a big issue, rather than just the length alone. It’s not that fatty like the top of a hand, it’s a lot of denser flesh, and you’re shoving a lot of extra volume into an already pretty small and tight area. That displaced flesh has to go somewhere, I would imagine it exerts a lot of pressure if you just try to shove an implant in without making a gap. 3mm isn’t huge for an implant, but I would think you’d feel it a whole lot in your fingertip with the insane amount of nerves (I would also imagine the actual install pain would be very very bad in such a small area, and I would be very very careful with administering yourself lidocaine). Coma brings up a good point too about sterility. It seems easy, it’s not. A deep infection in a fingertip sounds like hell, too, and would likely pose a pretty significant health risk.
Also, Coma mentioned this as well, but nerve pain can be debilitating, even in small areas. It’s somewhat a different type of nerve damage, but I have extreme carpal tunnel in my right wrist. I’ve had to use a trackball for the last few years, I can barely turn my wrist some days (can’t turn screwdrivers occasionally, once even locked myself in a room because I couldn’t turn the doorknob), and I get random shocks up my arm. You can also lose a lot of fine motor control. I obviously can’t tell you what to be afraid of, but nerve damage should probably be one of them.
(again though, bodily autonomy and all that, but even the thought of doing a fingertip install makes me shudder, let alone doing it myself…)
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Can you mark out where you plan to insert?
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The hole is at the dot at the very tip. Between the two marks it should sit in the end.
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Wouldn’t suggest this spot for self install either. From my experience having a nurse implant mine there it takes a lot of force as that is a rather strong area. If you go there I definitely suggest some help or a professional
I think you underestimate the diameter of the xG3
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That could be.
Im gonna make a 3d model later and 3d Print it. then i know it exactly 
Thank you all sooo much <3
I’ve got an stl for a flex/xG3/xNT 3d print. I could email it to you or something
edit: would be a little later I don’t have access to my desktop rn
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Oh yes… had my flexy installed through that place, to make the scar less visible, and I was really surprised how much force my bodymod artist had to apply there. And I got quite soft hands, can’t imagine how that would be on a person who does regular hard work…
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Me too! The person who does my implants is a phlebotomist and she had a bit of trouble getting that honker of a needle in. She also missed the spot I wanted by quite a bit butttttt it’s migrated anyway 
Hey thanks. Seems like a small target. I personally would come in from the other way.
not sure if it is better.
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Yeah it’s his file that I converted from f3d to stl
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Right so
- it is your body, and i agree in bodily autonomy BUT the way you are talking about it sounds like you still need to do more research, not saying don’t just saying research because:
- Yes ketamine is known for its medical uses, but not on someone who is preforming the procedure themself, there is a reason doctors lose their licence over working under the influence.
- The XG3 will be nothing like a piercing, trust me i have also done a lot of diy piercings and the XG3 will be 100% not like that (unless you have mastered the act of doing one handed Microdermals then maybe you will have some useful experience) yea maybe one of the xEM or NT may be more the speed of self piercing but not something like the G3
- as Coma said, never damage is not to be taken lightly, we are talking never ending pain or even paralysis if done wrong (or even right, sometimes shit just hits the fan)
- You are never going to get the same sterile environment that you should have, not saying this in a bad way, none of us really can. Nothing can constitute a place that never gets used for anything other than piercings like a studio, not your bathroom, kitchen or dining room, dosnt matter how much you have cleaned. Not saying this to deter you, this is just a warning you need to know what you are getting into.
You have picked the hardest spot with one of the hardsent implants of this type, please be careful, and i wish you luck. can’t wait to see how it goes 
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For me that looks more risky, because there is more distance that you have to follow the main nerve.
But its less likely to push it self out…
How deep is the ideal deepness for the final position in the Finger?
Is slightly under the Hypodermis enough or more like in the middle between bone and skin?
What i mean is mire like the Red line or like the Blue one?
I’ll say this, I put the XG3 on the top of my hand, and WOW is that sucker big. It’s always prominently above the level of skin on my hand, and it was not fun trying to get it in.
Like, for you, in that kind of spot, I might say sure, go for it, you’ve got experience doing piercings, worse case you just lose the implant. But while I totally get that you’re doing your reading and research and you feel comfortable accepting the risk, it feels like you’re still missing their points on the risks and how they’re larger than you think they are.
Also, just in general, the XG3 doesn’t bind to the skin like most magnet coatings, so it’s very prone to migration, which means you’re actually less likely to even end up with it where you want, if it even takes. That makes it a bad magnet for the job.
Others have also suggested that it might not give you the magnetic “sense” other magnets do based on its size and that lack of coating, meaning you would probably not even get the effect your after.
Either seek a professional installer for this, and/or get the proper kind of implant for the job. For your own safety and lack of disappointment.
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I think that sums it all up…
I am all about self experimentation and owning up your own risks.
But in order for someone to be able to responsibly accept the risks they are about to take, they must first be able to understand those risks.
And I think this is where things went awry on this thread:
Absolutely no one who knows what is nerve damage would ever utter that sentence.
A (very) wrong pinch on your fingertip nerve might cause you to feel debilitating pain whenever you bend your elbow, for the rest of your life.
One thing is to go in for a procedure knowing that you might come out with bad consequences. This will allow you to be extra careful and prepare for any eventualities.
Another thing is to just ignore the risks blindly.
Being aware of what might go wrong allows you to prepare well enough so you can turn failure into success.
Another big red flag here was this:
Fisrt off… Don’t think that black market Special K will be even nearly close to actual Ketamine.
1 vial of medical grade Ketamine becomes up to 30 vials of ketamine before it’s mixed up with other shit prior to hitting the black market. (why else you think it’s so cheap?) 
Not to mention the most important: By altering your mind before operating in yourself you are just inviting disaster.
Have you ever considered what happens when your blood pressure suffers a sudden drop while you’re under the effects of Ketamine? You drop uncounscious.
So how close are we from the scenario where you start poking the wound with the needle… and suddenly falls to the ground (with a sharp object inside you)… when you come back to your senses a few hours later you have a silly wound that takes a month or two to heal before you can try again and your magnet is no longer sterile.
That is a great example of tragedy that can be mitigated by prior study.
Also, Despite being in favour of self-experimentation, I do agree strongly with @Coma:
And sometimes all it takes is one bad fuck up that falls in the media to ruin the practice for everyone.
Take UK for example… Currently it is the worst country in the western world to get bodymods done. All the studios stopped doing interesting stuff and most places won’t even do basic experimental stuff now. All because of one mod gone “wrong” last year that hit the media.
Now just imagine if they had been using Special K on Dr Evil’s procedure. 
…
Well, now that this is out, let’s get down to business:
I would rather avoid getting any needle through the Phalanx joints. Far too much risk for messing up your mobility that can be mitigated easily.
@mrln’s approach and placement seems ok. there are just 2 elements to consider there…
First is xG3’s diameter. 3mm is a lot for a fingertip.
so…
This 
is a 3mm space. it is as close to the sides as
reccomended.
And this is a rough represendation of the wdth taken by bones and essential icky bits which cannot share a space with a magnet.
There you can see a rather undesired overlap…
This does not mean it’s not possible. Quite the opposite: that place is canonical for magnets. but what happens is that the magnet pushes the flesh out and the bits in.
So the maximum diameter we can insert there depends a lot on your constitution.
Unfortunately just like not everyone can accommodate an industrial piercing, it’s even harder to fit a 3mm x15mm magnet on the fingertips.
Although by your pictures, you might be able to fit it in there… but be prepared for possible rejection.
Now for the second issue… the length.
Many people only take the length of the fingertip into consideration, measuring like this:
That works fine for a lateral placement, but you must take into consideration that whenever we grip our flesh changes in ways that a glass cylinder cannot.
So the closer we are to the centre of the fingertip, the smaller is the available length.
These 
Diagonal lines should work as rough safety guidelines. so you might play with placement by following them instead of just moving the measure or 3d model in a straight line.
Sort of like this
That can also guide you into how close to the centre of the fingertip you can safely place it. ( not that anyone wants a magnet on the middle of the fingertip )
In short, it is of course possible to place an xG3 in the fingertip, but that’ll depend a lot on your anatomy. It might just as well fit in perfectly, get rejected, or just be very visible.
Another potential placement candidate might be the position “-1”, or just outside the metacarpal bone for your thumb…
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The -1 Position is not listed there.
Could somebody tell me where it is?
It’s position 11 here
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Oh, I remember reading a suggestion for it to be called -1 somewhere. hadn’t seen it got formalized as 11 (-1 was really confusion prone though)
I can see how the “or” confused you…
“just outside the metacarpal bone for your thumb” was the description of the position…
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Be hard (but possible) to find a worse place to put any implant.
Sooner or latter it will fail.
Why would you cripple yourself like that?
You use your fingers many times everyday and the loss of even one finger has a huge negative impact on productivity.
If you need a pain killer to do it… it’s not a good idea.
The complications will prove far more painful than the implantation…