Flipper Zero - Kickstarter RFID/RF/BLE/USB/IR

It’s looking awesome @koteeq

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does it actually check the chip when it says “success!” … so it’s doing verification?

also… any thoughts on adding ID stacking for the T5577 to the flipper firmware?

Yep.
It works in a loop:

  1. Write
  2. Read
  3. ID equals? Success. Not equals? Go to 1.

We have plans on improving this process to get better coupling with weak tags by adding a read step and a timer before writing. This will help to find the sweet spot.

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Thanks for the update @koteeq
as you can tell there are a few of us that are excited to get ours, but the personalized updates on here are really appreciated ( aka Don’t be a stranger, Everytime you use your Flipper with an implant we would love to hear about it)

also please pass onto your team, The Flipper Kickstarter has be amazing with their very thorough and honest updates.
I don’t just say this as a throw away comment, but it has by far and away been THE best Kickstarter / indegogo project I have ever backed.

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Thank you so much for your kind words! This is especially very important for us in these tough days.

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I’ve never been that relaxed about not getting a product in time :wink:
Through all those constant and transparent updates, I just know what’s happening, and I know I will finally get my Flipper, so I can easily stay patient.
But yes, that missing “writing to blank cards” in the NFC section has surprised me a bit as well… @koteeq , is it possible for you to shed some light on that?

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I’ve updated the blog post.

We will implement writing to normal blank Mifare 1k tags and to those with Chinese backdoor.

I’m pretty sure it will support gen2 backdoor (which is basically a rewritable 0 sector) and I’m not sure about gen1 backdoor (which has custom command to rewrite the UID).

After all, it’s just software. It is open-source and officially supported by us for 2 years minimum. Someday all types of cards will be supported.

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Thanks for clearing that up!
So the device itself is technically capable of writing to our implants, that’s some good news :slight_smile:

I got this newsletter email from Flipper today:

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I thought that was a pretty good primer write up.

Quite a good update, it looks like alot has been done / fixed / added

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Just read it, really, really awesome update. The UART support is fantastic, I need a USB to UART bridge pretty often, and this means one less thing to carry with me. I hope it’s a feature down the line (or maybe something I can add) to give a simple read out on the screen. For just printing out log messages, it’d be neat to have in a portable form factor.

I could not be more excited for it, but admittedly a little disappointed that it’s running a little behind schedule. I’d rather get it later though if it means it’ll be more ironed out, and it seems that they’re definitely working around the clock to get this thing near perfect. They can’t help the chip shortage either, every project like this is suffering.

“We have 60000 screens, enough for all the devices backed on Kickstarter and for some part of the pre-orders made on our website.”

Hoping I’m one of those pre-orders :wink:

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ive been keeping an eye on this for a bit … they are over 6 month behind wih $4.88M funding …
Im gonna wait a few rev. before getting one … hopefully they can iron out some of the issues that will arise …

While technically accurate, the chip shortage has slowed down even massive companies let alone startups. I’m impressed that having to pay 6 months more wages and pay for multiple redesigns hasn’t killed them.

They’ve been clear on their communication, shown evidence they will redesign to make it happen instead of waiting years for the parts, and enough photos to convince me the money has actually been spent on these units.

Maybe I’m too trusting, and it’s disappointing to be delayed, but I don’t see how this could have been done any better.

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I agree

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You make a good point … I’m always weary about Kickstarter, the only 2 or 3 I was about to fund went belly up (3D printers) … Thankfully I didn’t lost anything (didn’t fund them) but I know a few people who lost quite a bit …

I’m looking forward to read some first hand, real world writeup.

Yep. I’m a few thousands out on a kickstarter that is essentially moribund. The guy ain’t answering emails, and I’m pretty sure he’s skipped town by now (it’s been a few years). And God knows I did my research thoroughly before parting with my hard earned.

In short, it’ll be a cold day in hell before I back another project. Either it’s for sale and I’ll buy it, even at full price, or I’ll wait until you’re done bringing it to market. But you sure ain’t seeing a dime from me before you do.

Well, with a couple of exceptions - His Amalness being one of them.

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Well, I have backed many Kickstarters and one appears dead. One company just admitted defeat about half way through fulfillment. Most of the rest have succeeded. Some have lived up to their potential others have not.

I have only come across one outright fraud, and I didn’t back it.

I’ve had good luck with Kickstarter, but as much as they say that creators are obliged to deliver there is very little you can do to make them.

The way I see it, you’ve gotta treat it as investing in someone’s R&D if you like what they are doing. If you get the product they set out to make thats great, but you can’t treat it like a purchase and expect it will be identical to the way it is sold.

I’ve only had one project go completely bust on me which was a bit of a hit, but in this case its a rather small investment into someone at least trying a new form factor for easy to use RFID things that isnt locked down (cough Keysy cough)

At the very least, just shy of 5M shows people there is a market for this and maybe can drive some investment in cool toys for us all