The anti🚫-derailment🚃 & thread🧵 hijacking🔫 thread🧵 ⁉

[amal]

Yeah… I feel similarly but also there is no actual helping them either. Their grip on reality has been lost to the point that you just can’t help them. Trust me, I’ve tried… like really tried… like hours on the phone and reviewing x-rays and MRI scans tried. Making fun is sometimes a way to deal with the fact these people are so far gone.

Some ask why have such a thread if there’s no help. It’s just a trap. A fly trap. To keep them there and not polluting the rest of the forum. Without a bright shining light to attract them, every thread would become riddled with stuff… similarly to what we are seeing now with a certain person.

I do agree that refuting claims and demanding evidence is fine but let’s try to keep the actual trashing to a minimum… they are unwell after all.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

Funny you should say that.
It is the same reason I put a ban on one to stop that progressing any further.

The DM I sent was basically, stop spamming threads, stop creating threads Take some time and decide where you stand on implants, and politely suggested he seek some help

(Don’t stand on implants kids)

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Also I started to reply in the other thread, but just stopped, because, there was no point posting it, It was more for my benefit than his because he was never going to listen.

Here’s the draft

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Hey buddy,
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here.

People here are open minded, and if you could provide irrefutable proof, we would obviously believe you.
Some of the problems you have are:

• You have not yet provided ACTUAL proof.
• The “stock” image is not proof, it is fabricated, and by sharing that, you have lost trust and you are on the back foot.
• The YouTube link is not proof
• The people you are trying to convice are across similar technology, so we are aware of the possibilities and more importantly, what is not yet possible.

[ODaily]

I’ve found the best I can do for them, is not make it worse. For that reason and the peace of my own mind, the solution I found is to simply block the crazy thread. I see one pop up every now and again, but this forum has an incredible AI system that very quickly corrals the offending post back within it’s designated thread.

[Eriequiet]

I try not to shit on the users in that thread, but I do think a certain level of mocking isnt shitting on them but constructive almost

Kind of a, “what your saying is so out there I’m going to mock it a bit, and hope it maybe causes a rethink”

The latest back and forth user is something else, I’m genuinely not sure what to make… either swirling the drain of psychosis, intermittent drug use, bi polar?,

Not going to lie, I’m morbidly curious

[Eriequiet]

@Pilgrimsmaster

(Don’t stand on implants kids)

WWRD

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@Eriequiet

WWRD

haha, that took me a couple of seconds

[enginerd]

Should I get a NExT in my foot? It’s tempting but I have no use for it, I just want to have more electronics under my skin…

[amal]

I’ve been considering installing a backup Apex in my leg

[Pilgrimsmaster]

Rosco has an xEM in his foot an he uses it with with high power readers at his desk and his front door under a mat.

Not a bad idea at l if you ask me…

Implant in foot: practical problem

Yesterday I attempted to implant an xEM in the webbing between my big toe and second toe - topside, implanting from back to front so the chip ends up as far forward as possible in the webbing, above the fat pad. But I ran into a problem: I can’t tent up the skin. It’s set deep between the phalanges, thin and quite taut. If I do manage to grab enough skin and pull up hard on it to create a tent of sorts, and leave enough space under my pinch to let the needle pass underneath it, it hurts like a …

Yale Doorman V2N smartlock remote control with an external RFID reader

I’m gonna leave this here for reference if someone wants to do the same thing I wanted to do. This is part of my unfinished smart doormat project: my idea was to use a long-range LF reader as a doormat to open my Yale Doorman V2N smartlock with my foot implant. The Yale Doorman V2N has a built-in NFC (Mifare Classic) reader, but it’s a bit finicky, and it requires exact cloning of the really expensive genuine Yale tags (see here for technical details). It’s annoying to use with the M1k implant…

[enginerd]

@Pilgrimsmaster

Rosco has an xEM in his foot an he uses it with with high power readers at his desk and his front door under a mat.

I know but first of all, I like to wear shoes… And for the time being, I don’t see myself installing high power readers in the floor.

But if I ever get such an implant, I’d probably be a NExT instead of an xEM. The additional storage could be useful for backup purposes but to be fair, a combination Spark/xEM implant would be ideal for that spot.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@enginerd

I like to wear shoes

A high power reader will still work through shoes, I think rosco may have even tested it in some snow boots / Mukluks (or Finnish equivalent)

@enginerd

a combination Spark/xEM implant

That’s quite a bespoke implant.
In my personal opinion, maybe 3-4 years ago I would have agreed with you.
But now the technology (chips) have moved on, I still see the Spark as a viable account backup option, and they are effectively “free” when you buy an implant bundle so worth grabbing a bundle just for that.
But I think, a new Vivokey Apex “Glassie” + T5577 combination would be a great new product option

[enginerd]

@Pilgrimsmaster

A high power reader will still work through shoes

True, I was just implying that I’ve read enough of this forum to know about it. IIRC, He tested some chainmail “shoes” and the chip still read fine. I don’t know about steel toe boots but most people around here already have a backup at hand.

@Pilgrimsmaster

I still see the Spark as a viable account backup option

That’s exactly why I mentioned it, just because a foot isn’t ideal for high frequency chips. And the idea of a glassie Apex with a T5577 didn’t cross my mind at the time. IIRC a glassie Apex did get mentioned at some point and it was probably the one that got me confused about the naming of those things not that long ago, wasn’t it?

I’m not counting on an x series Apex as getting it manufactured could take a while.

[Pilgrimsmaster]

@enginerd

it was probably the one that got me confused about the naming of those things not that long ago, wasn’t it?

Yeah, it has had a couple name suggestions.
The one most referred to in the open forum was VivoKey Apex MAX , there has been an update to the name in the DT Club, and MAX is no longer the name; however it’s not my place to release the new name here in the open forum, besides, it is not yet a reality anyway, so the name could change again…

Apex Max, Apex glassie or Apex xSeries people will know what you are referring to…

[ZeGerman]

I would be highly interested in a xSeries Apex

[Eriequiet]

[Eriequiet]

Just realized I haven’t seen @TheCyberSystem in a while, hope all is well

[TheCyberSystem]

We’re doing pretty crap tbh but still alive. We’ve got a lot going on personally so there’s not been any time for hobbies or obsessions, like implants.

[Eriequiet]

@TheCyberSystem

there’s not been any time for hobbies or obsessions

I can get that,

I haven’t done any shooting or training for way too long… which is w/e for many… but it’s kinda a cornerstone for me

Not even fully sure why, chicken and the egg… not sure if I haven’t gotten out to do anything because I’ve been in a funk… or if I’m in a funk because I haven’t

Skills and ability that are perishable and were painstakingly honed, I’m letting atrophy… almost feels a smidge self destructive in a sense

Feel like I’m stuck in the work eat work eat sleep repeat cycle

Also still recovering from Covid blows… first day back to work and I am running at 40% speed and want to go to sleep and 5 more hours to go

(It’s been pointed out that this is a habit of mine likely due to my ADHD brain Not making light, just expressing that I emphasize)

Hopefully the personal “crap” improves

@TheCyberSystem

but still alive

Keep doing that lol

I don’t know how to put into words the sentiment I mean by that that doesn’t sound like it’s making light

This is a go to self-training target, and it’s what I mean when I say “keep doing that”
You are archiving the desired outcome so “keep doing that”

[darthdomo]

I haven’t been very active around here lately, due to some personal reasons as well, also due to just overall stress, brain issues, and lack of energy.

Just wanted to say that I’m glad to see your presence, and that I hope whatever isn’t going well manages to improve at some point. Always good to see you around

[darthdomo]

I meant to post this earlier, but had my first implant-area injury the day before yesterday.

I was walking at a very fast pace, and somehow managed to absolutely obliterate my hand on a concrete bollard at high speed. Of course, it was directly over my xSIID install… Just smacked into it, and scraped along the side of it. Really rough concrete.

Not much directly after, other than a few light marks and a lot of redness. It rapidly started swelling.

This was the day after (which was yesterday). The scratches became much more apparent, and it was still very swollen, occasionally bleeding. I could barely move a few of my fingers, due to the swelling. The skin was super tender.

I’ve felt around, and as far as I can tell, the xSIID is still completely intact, but it’s shifted significantly, completely broke through its encapsulation. It’s about 4mm lower now, if I had to guess.

It still scans (although roughly due to swelling), and the light is still visible, albeit a bit dimmer from the swelling and the scratches on top.

Sucks that it moved after 2 years of being happily encapsulated, but probably the best case scenario considering the sheer amount of force I put into it. Obviously I know from the testing of Amal and others that they should be very strong, but always good to see it for myself, and glad that it didn’t push through further and hit a bone or something.

This was today. Thankfully, I’m usually a pretty fast healer, it seems to be calming down now. Scratches are still there, and quite tender, but the swelling has reduced by about half, and the redness is much lower.

I’ll probably pick up some prenatals just to give it the best chance of encapsulating well again. Hopefully the trauma means that the body will want to rapidly get it stuck in place.