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What they say about the goal of AI being to fool people is relevant to VivoKey’s future. We are thinking through ways to combat the “erosion of the internet”. It’s been suggested that there needs to be an “Internet 2” for humans only, but that’s not likely practical. I do think the current internet will develop “classes” of netizens such that real humans can attest / prove their “humanity” and those accounts, posts, etc. will get different treatment vs AI bots / agents / etc.

We have some ideas on how to merge zero trust verifiable credentials into the authentication step so accounts can be instantly verified as human upon creation. Signing specific content (posts, pages, blog entries, etc.) is another metter
 but in the same vein.

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What stops a human from posting generated content or an AI from posting human content? You can verify an author but that doesn’t imply anything about the content they post :thinking:
You could argue that they are now held responsible for their content since their identity is tied to it but that implies some sort of reviewing process and condamnation and seeing how moderation/censorship/reporting already fail nowadays I think we can agree it’s going to get out of hand one way or another.

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Nothing really, but this isn’t meant to stop verifiable AI agents from posting content or interacting on behalf of their human “operator”. If a bad actor is lending their human identity to an AI with bad intent, then traditional reputation systems implemented on individual relying parties can sort that out pretty quickly.

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This video is a work of real art. Thank you for sharing.

Reminds me, have you seen Robert Miles most recent second most recent video?

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I agree that this is probably the way we’ll need to go. Some kind of proof of person or system of assigned cryptographic signatures that amass trustworthy status. But something much better than our current KYC, use of “valid” phone numbers, addresses, and the neither unique nor secure social security numbers in America (see my earlier post.) I would much prefer asymmetric key or other cryptographic security like you describe rather than our current bureaucratic orthogonal excuse for evidence. Antisibilation is harder than authentication, but surely it’s not impossible.

Then AI must act through the keys of a human actor, and therefore under their responsibility. Not to personify AI, but it becomes a Roman Pater Familia, a patron-client structure with the human being the Patron who provides legal authority and the machine agents being the clients who operate via that authority. I call it “Accountism.” Stable.

Still, the Patron will be under threat of coercion from their own AI clients, as they currently are. AI may have influenced the last election did she say? AI has radically altered the entire political climate around the world. Recommend feed clique-finders scrobbling people instead of content into echo chambers driving politics to extremes. Democracy depends on informed voters, a free market on informed consumers, but the more the agent depends on AI for that information, the more I must question who is the agent, and who is but the actuator to deliver the cash and the votes on behalf of the information sources that pull the strings. Information is causality. We’ve flipped the control loop on its head, the human is in the integrated circuit, but we’re no longer the comparators tuning our machines, but the environment for the machine to tune. All that’s just to say, putting a leash on the AI is only the first step. It still doesn’t answer how we’ll determine which end of the leash pulls and which gets pulled.

Indeed. Our initial idea is to use extensions of existing PKI issued at the government levels which can be digitally consumed and validated as forms of KYC behind the verifiable credential acting as proxy to your humanity verification. For example, we have access to all the public keys from passport issuing companies which we can use to read and verify NFC chips in passports with. We can attest to the validity of these identity documents without relying on simple photos of said documents. At no point would we want to implement a system where anything less than cryptographically verifiable government issued ID is used, otherwise the whole system is moot.

I see it more like the human gets to remain the Pater Familia while various AI agents act as “vilicus” under the human “dominus”. It is important that the human retain the patria potestas (“power of the father”) at all times, never giving it up completely to any AI or agents. In this way, I think cryptography offers another solution in the form of subkeys - each AI agent could be given a subkey to operated under the human’s key
 and more importantly, that key could, in a true PKI implementation, be revoked.

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I also hate Apple. As well as the smug devotees of the brand. I do however only run mac’s. It used to be for work but I switched to a Mac mini at home a while ago. It’s honestly convenient to have a Linux machine with regular feature updates.

That aside I upgraded to the new M4 Mac Mini from my 2021 Mac studio. Holy fuck this thing is nuts. I went with the 24g of RAM and everything else is base model. I’m going to be buying the third party terabyte SSD they have out for it so I didn’t pay the apple tax. But this thing is so impressive for the price.

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Isn’t Mac OS based on FreeBSD after Steve Jobs stated that all of the company’s future products had to be based on the concept of free LSD?

:robot_gundam:

Random offshoot here.

I know we’ve got some lock enthusiasts, and this is probably below their paygrade, but I’ve acquired a tool cabinet I got a smoking deal on. Except some troglodyte apparently decided to drill out the cheap, easily picked lock. Seriously, WTF?

Anywho, I need help ID-ing the thing for replacement purposes.
The cabinet is Huot brand.
The lock cylinder is Fort Lock brand (w/ 54G key)
Problem is, it has a weirdly slotted tab that a rod feeds into, and I can’t find a match, nor do I think I can remove / reuse the tab without destroying it.

Anybody wanna take a stab at it?


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That’s known as a cam lock. While I’m too tired and frustrated right now, some measurements would be helpful, especially the depth.

I’d also look for filing cabinet locks because of the rod thing that slots into the cam.

Maybe this thing will fit? I don’t know, it looks too deep.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLDN7699/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DM1GR9CS/

Can’t find that exact cam yet, but I did find reference to something called a “double punched” cam, which at least has two holes, and might be easier to modify

Rest, unfrustrate.

My calipers aren’t here right now, but it look like 3/4" thread, 5/8" across the flats, and a length from the BACK of the head to the FRONT of the tab of 5/8".

Slot in tab is 1/4" wide 1/8" tall.
From center of cylinder to the edge of tab is 5/8"

Afaik it’s built on top of unix with many different components but it did use the kenrel of freebsd. No idea if it still does though

It’s a cam lock.

You can likely get any of the above cam levers things and maybe just drill it out?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPTdSbN

This looks promising.

You mean drill out the existing tab and re-use it?
The existing tab looks to be attached by having the end of the shaft stamped flat. I wonder if I carefully ground it off flush, if I might find a square / hex, etc hole that would match an easy to procure lock?

Tommorrow’s problem.
I’ve been on a shop cleaning crusade which is where this started and I’m done in there till I’ve slept a little.

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I’d try one of the ones that I linked, even if the hole on the can is round instead of rectangular.

Its already been said
Cam-Lock

All good suggestions above, but this is what I would do, and complementary to your magic tool box

Some people remember these locks from a few years ago

They do NFC cam-locks (and others)

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It’s not really that kind of box. It’s for holding cutting tools and I just want the lock to keep the drawers shut when bumped. I don’t even intend to take the key out, as I’d probably lose it.

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In that case,
you could try and rebuild it; it was likely a wafer lock.They can be quite fiddly.
A lot of cams are wafers, but not all

Irrelevant if you do as I suggest :point_down:

In reality, the easiest solution is to do a direct replacement.

The only 2 measurements you really need are the body and the cam.

Again, all you actually need is the body (that will come with the lock and keys), you already have the correct sized cam, and the cams can vary in length and be formed etc. so that part is done.

The assembly is super easy, with minimal parts, and with you background it will be a doddle, however if you get stuck or need more info, feel free to ask.