What door lock in new build house?

Hi guys,

I’m going to build a new house soon. This looked like a good excuse to integrate my door lock. Anybody got some good recommendations on how to start with this?

Most popular options are mostly locks you pit on an existing lock. I would find it more esthetic if you can’t see anything on the door itself.

What i want in my system :

  • nfc x-series compatible (i got an xMagic)
  • pin access would be nice
  • hardwired (maybe a backup battery when power goes down)
  • home assistant support would be nice
  • i live in europe so also available compatible here

Anybody got experience with this?

I cant speak first hand about it, but Check this out, It should suit your needs

Im.not sure about the compatibility with the xMagic though

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Not bad! Thanks for the tip.

Seems like it does gonna get costly if i have to buy a ubiquity dream machine for this.

If you’re building the house, I would suggest using electric strikes. They’re much less finicky than smart locks because you can use higher powered readers. I don’t have any particular system to recommend.

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Some people here gave used the Ubiquiti system. Also check out the compatibility system;

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Was looking for something compatible with standard euro cylinders that’s reasonably secure (e.g. no access control logic physically located on the outside) and unlockable by physical key in case of power/electronics failure. Only thing I found is evva emzy which looks reasonably like what I want but costs ~1k€ and that’s just the mechanical part, there’d be a bunch of DYI involved integrating with system like home assistant.

Curious what are the other options.

Did you see my link to the compatibility matrix right above your post?

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If you have the choice, the key is to not use the cylinder at all for this.
You want an electric strike that you can control with a reader.
The same thing that allows you to buzz someone in after ringing the bell.
That way you can use more or less any system that can control a relay or contact.
In addition you can have multiple things controlling it, like the system behind the outside reader and the 2way intercom at the door.
You could use the unifi system for that or even build something yourself.
There are some projects around self built systems here on the forum as well

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There are some new and interesting products since I last looked (DOM, Wilka) but nothing that can be unlocked with mechanical key from the outside?

Edit: hmm, maybe Wilka E203 or E206 could do what I want. Key-side is supposed to be inside but perhaps you can just reverse it & have external controller open the lock over bluetooth (if firmware supports it…).

Edit 2: Never mind, it doesn’t have a motor.

I still don’t understand why you want to go with a electronic cylinder.
It’s an option to upgrade a normal mechanical door.
But i wouldn’t use it if i built a new house and have to options to place a wired reader next to the door

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Exactly, i don’t want to retrofit an electronic cilinder. Definetly going with an integrated system. The problem is mainly, where do i begin? I want it to be more professional/reliable than using a raspberry pi to control it. But don’t want to spend 2000€ on a full blown security system.

Found the hikvision modular system. It seems like it has a big mifare scanner that goes with it. It can unlock doors and uses a display inside the house.

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Good morning

The Aqua Smart Lock U200 arrived to me yesterday.

https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B0D1C75J4F?ref=cm_sw_r_cso_fm_apin_dp_P5TK12WB3H19CNC0MYJH&ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_fm_apin_dp_P5TK12WB3H19CNC0MYJH&social_share=cm_sw_r_cso_fm_apin_dp_P5TK12WB3H19CNC0MYJH&starsLeft=1&skipTwisterOG=1&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2_PP64OYa-waiWcKpQHhxLnrLJ7irnCtxGrG4U6L8HB2agH_9_rBC_PRg_aem_xLbXvFmfwhrCxsZH5OPx3A

This works perfectly with my FlexMT/FlexMN and it has a lot of other options for opening the door.
Since the Aqara U200 is mainly compatible with the Mifare 1K, xMagic will work.

Important: I also read an NTAG215/216.
This works, but afterwards when you want to open the door, it no longer reads the implant.

This lock is also available in European and American version.

I made a small demo setup to show him reading the implant and how it works
(PS: my english is not that good but I did my best :))

When I installed the lock in my front door i will post a total review here so it will certainly be continued :slight_smile:

Greetings in advance :slight_smile:

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Makes sure if you do electronic strikes you look up @DeviantOllam on YouTube… he’s got plenty of videos show how electronic strikes are often installed incorrectly in a way that’s most convenient for the installer but creates significant vulnerability to slipping the latches

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Great tip. Going to check him out!

Pretty much all you have to do is make sure the plunger which is the small latch behind the main locking latch is depressed by the electronic strike plate when the door is shut.

It locks the main latch and prevents it being retracted by manipulating it. That is why strikes for latches (as opposed to deadbolts) have a little square protrusion.

If you your strike plate does not have that then you need to make sure it is shielded so no one can slip something in and manipulate the latch.

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Your English is really good, clear and really easy to understand.

You mentioned you had a FlexMT / FlexMN

They are 2 different implants, do you have both?
The FlexMT is a Mifare Classic chip (with T5577)
The FlexMN is a Magic NTAG Chip (with T5577)

If you have a FlexMN, which version do you have?
wedge shaped? :flex: (Limited sales before it was pulled)
or
Disc Shaped? :flexmn:

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N2, Paxton, Axis Communications, Dahua, Hikvision, Doorbird, and Ubiquiti have similar systems.

I almost bought an Axis door intercom but had a change of plans so I never did and have not tested any of the systems I mentioned.

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Hi,

Yes, I have them both.
One in the left hand and one in the right.
They are the 2 large discs.

On the left I have the FlexMT with a Salto-card on it.
On the right i have the FlexMN with skypass on it.

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Ok, i immediately ordered this lock also because all of it’s features. Sadly, the nfc reader isn’t strong enough to read my xMagic. Tried in every direction. My keychain gave me an idea where i should place my chip. Without success :cry: Going to send it back.

How noticeable are those? I know that you’re probably the only one who notices but still.