Donāt say crash!!
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This is the Unitree H2:
The fact that itās from a Chinese company is evident. Somehow itās a design that tries to be human, but itās a poor copy at the end of the dayā¦ Or perhaps itās a poor copy of a copy, if theyāre coping the Tesla Optimus style?
Can I say that these human imitating designs feel a bit soulless? Thereās a certain āgeneric human replacementā feel to those aesthetics. Especially when they try to add a weird faceā¦
Why not do something different? Something better? Itās a new industry, donāt draw a box to limit you before things get off the ground.
I think that the latest Atlas looks better, the Asimo looked great. And many sci-fi designs also look better just because they were not intended to look as humanā¦
Exhibit A:
Even this looks great:
Is it me or this type of designs look like a human in a weird hoodie that has built-in a visor?
Anyways, Iām sleep deprived and should probably be posting in the drink8ng threadā¦
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Wait how do you make it loop?
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AI will kill us allā¦ not because the AI does anything, because we do.
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This AGI discussion always reminds me of the philosophical dangers of such a (warning: legitimate cognitive hazard)
Rokoās basilisk
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Pretty sure that the place where that idea originated is a cultā¦ Those who are involved in that particular ācommunityā remind me of the cult where I wasted my teenage years because my mother got recruited. And their articles repeat the same BS over and over to create the illusion of consensus.
And yes, I am aware that they have articles with all sorts of excuses claiming that they are not a cultā¦
I recommend picking up āCombatting Cult Mind Controlā by Steven Hassan and giving it a read before going to such places. Understanding how you can potentially get manipulated goes a long way when it comes to preserving your freedom of thought.
And well, I find it sad that a doomsday idea that came out of a dishonest manipulative group is becoming mainstream.
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The technical term is uncanny valley and itās well known in robotic
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I wouldnāt say that the bulk of those things are in the uncanny valley, thatās why I didnāt use the term. I just find the designs a bit uninspiring.
Although the fake face is a bit uncanny.
Totally fair. I think the TARS robot design from Interstellar might be my favorite of anything Iāve seen in the last decade. Itās so unique
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For sure. I guess the more general concept of s-risks has been been around for at least a few hundred years, at least since Pascalās wager (which, one could argue, also feels culty). However, this more modern adaptation to the information age sure came from an unwell place and unwell people.
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@Eriequiet how did this go?
did you get it repaired?
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I donāt remember that repair being successful, and the following posts confirmed that:
I wouldāve liked to have access to the dog ball machine, although no-name chips can have weird pinouts, be hard to find, and not have a datasheet. This can make repairs more difficult. But still, SMD rework is something that Iām experienced with.
That reminded me of a repair I did on a rechargeable lamp that my mother gave me, it was from a British designer brand but the internals were as Chinese as it getsā¦ So the op-amp (I assume it was an op-amp being used as part of a linear current regulator) that limits the brightest failed and I was unable to find one with the same pinout. I expected a jellybean part TBH and I ended up replacing it with a piece of wire and use the mosfet as a source follower. Bit less accurate but good enough for a cheaply built lamp.
Now If I could only get some sleepā¦ Help!
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Magnets.. how do they work?!
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Thinking of bringing best implants to the market?
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We already do! Bahaha
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xxxSeries
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Half asleep me misspelled ābreastā.
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I could use a 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion on what I did wrong.
I have dry sand. Itās pretty decently classified to a 1/8" minus size. Most of it is quartz, and some of it is very dense material.
My bright idea was to put it into a cup on a sub woofer speaker, and play a continous low Hz tone to kinda liquify the dry sand particles. My belief was it would stratify, and if I added more until it overflowed, Iād only overflow the less dense material. A.K.A. density separation by vibration.
In practice, the cup (of sand) was too heavy for my trial speaker, so I put the sand right on the speaker cone. The center of the sand rose, and the edges sank, kinda like a convection cell. The particles remained totally mixed. I checked the cup again with just a small amount of material and it did the same thing.
Frequencies from 50-100hz, lower seemed better, volume adjusted to weight of sand / load.
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It sounds to me like thereās something along the lines of standing waves on the speaker cone? Does the frequency change where the sand pools up?
A cyclone comes to mind as a potential alternative, but Iām not sure if Iām on the right track.
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I had it happen at various frequencies and amplitudes. I could basically only control how fast it happened. It also happened in a flat bottomed cup (with a reduced load of sand).
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My bet is itās the physics of the cup shape. Get a straight walled beaker?
Yeah, the flat bottomed cup that I used was straight walled. It was just me trying the 3d printed cup again, but with less material.
Wanna See?
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Have you tried just a basic exciter?
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My coworker used these and those large foam insulation boards to make some speakers for the assembly line area at my old job. Sounded surprising good, and loud
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Not really. Wanted to prove the idea before putting cash in it. Also just found out Iām strung out for cash till at least the end of the year. 
I did look into the bass shakers that video game racers are using for haptic feedback. I determined that because they work kind bass ackwards 
, theyād be less useable. A subwoofer has a fixed (heavy) magnet, and a moving electromagnetic coil. If Iām gonna add a bunch of mass (sand) then I need the moving parts as light as possible. The bass Shakers / Buttkickers / haptic feedbacks use a fixed coil and a moving mass to create the rumble. If I could get this working, Iād probably try to scale up using a cheap 10-12" sub from a car audio system, and scrap everything except the magnet and coil. Then build on to that.
For nowā¦
Iām exploring using interrupted sound, or sounds that sweep through hz, or randomish hz changes every 1/3 second to try and break up the harmonics. I may also try using containers with not-smooth periphery design (12 point star) and some internal pillars or something. Just try to break up whatever is happening.
Maybe late this week though, I got a buddyās truck down in my driveway and need to get it mobile again.
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Those who love the 
, understand. Those who do not, never will. 
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Iāll never understand rocks thenā¦ Although extracting useful materials out of the rocks is pretty cool IMHO.
Still, steel is more interesting than the rocks it comes from in my boring book.
This might be worth looking into:
Maybe tuning the dimensions so that only the heavier particles end up at the bottom?
Iām not sure if Iām on the right track thoā¦ Gotta look into it when time allowsā¦
Thanks for the range and time info @tac0s !
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Hear ye, hear ye, today I ask with great thanks in advance for observing my riddle;
Particularly in reference to access control, though absolutely extending past that (ie end users using work badges to do non-access-control things, perhaps file access), is there any notable security benefit to DESFire EV3 over EV2?
(This ties into my professional life so Iād like to keep stuff vague past this. I will be doing additional research myself before decisions are made of course, though I figured I would utilize this community for baseline knowledge.)
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Thereās only two things. A transaction timer lets the card enforce a max transaction duration to help with MitM linger attacks. Thatās not likely to be much of a big deal for end users, but EV3 also supports secure dynamic messaging which is CMAC-authenticated data you can embed in a standard NDEF read.
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Okay, so if one or both of those features are properly implemented by the manufacturer as part of any transactions that would reasonably take place between a badge and a reader in question, then the difference is notable. Otherwise they function closely enough that the difference is negligible.
Thank you for the starting point!
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For access control the timer is the most likely to be implemented. The reason behind this feature has to do with attacks on the Netherlands transit system, and NXP is a Dutch company.. so it was somewhat embarrassing.. but your typical access control systems will just use a secure file and keys to ensure cryptographic security.
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Free implant!
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Dumb question for yāall:
Is there any difference in the antenna/core of the xEM, NExT and xMagic?
My xEM is semi deep (cant see it when I move) and it reads amazing every time.
My NExT was about the same, read pretty great, but slightly less foolproof as the xEM (I always put it on the install)
My xMagic is installed pretty shallow and itās finicky as hell ā¦ to the point where the flipper has a hard time read/write and reader that pick up the xEM from 1/2ā away have a really hard time picking up the xMagic ā¦
So I was wondering if they had the same antenna or theyāre just different enough to not quite work in the same manner? ā¦ Or is it just me being impatient
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Just another data point;
Both my NExT and xMagic are installed at what I would personay consider a medium depth, just deep enough to not see easily when the skin is stretched.
Neither is finicky with anything LF, and in fact have worked with everything that I have tried them with (given the correct frequency). However, it is worth noting that I get slightly more consistent reads with the xMagic. Both will read from a PM3 Easy maybe 5mm away, but when touching and as perfectly positioned as I can manage, I can get a read 19/20 times with the xMagic and maybe 17/20 times with the NExT.
It is worth noting that my NExT is under thicker skin (left wrist alongside Ulnar), so I think this variable explains the differences Iāve seen in my implants.
(Also, location of my NExT is lovely, I rate it 4 stars if anyone has already filled all of their P0-P4s)
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The xEM has a full length ferrite core while the dual frequency tags have a āstubbyā ferrite core for the T5577 side. It does affect performance slightly.
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( ļ¼ ā½ ļ¼ )
Dunno the kbd shortcuts for the new reactions, but that gave me a good laugh.
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Ever wonder what a bad day looks like at 2200 degrees Fahrenheit? 
Long story short, I boiled my flux over the side of the crucible and it ate everything up. Half the bottom and that one side basically punched right through the kaowool liner. Gonna be a God Awful Mess to clear out.
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Shots fired! Lol
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Whoās the guy snd what does he do?
Iām personally not a fan of āin the future this, in the future thatā stuff.
Those who are actually working on building cool stuff, who are finding ways to do things better for the sake of the intellectual challenge, those who are actually original and are creating stuff are the people building the future.
The future is slowly being built by the choices that me make in the present. So choose wisely. and buy more implants
Predicting things by the seat of the pants doesnāt add much IMHO.
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Derailing the thread, hereās an interesting video about a new technology, and criticizing the critics of those building a better mousetrap:
Do note that the Ayn Rand Institute posts a lot of political videos if you end up deciding to check out their channel and other media.
I made the local newsā¦.
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I want to reply to that, but not in that thread.
Carrier frequency has nothing to do with available bandwidth. Bandwidth is directly related to bandwidth, so the faster you want to transmit, the bigger the chunk of the spectrum that you require. The relationship between maximum data transfer bandwidth and RF bandwidth is defined by the ShannonāHartley theorem.
But as expected, Amal is right and that magnetometer thing will pick up a lot of crap from the environmentā¦ In fact, you can play around with a plain old compass and itāll be affected by things like rebar, screws, nails, furniture parts, some keychains, etcā¦
And you are indeed correct about the size of the required antenna for low frequency stuff.
Itās also worth mentioning that some metal detectors tend to struggle with iron as it has a higher resistance than other more valuable metals and this makes inducing eddy currents a bit harder. And IIRC, some metal detectors use the phase of the returned signal or something along those lines to avoid detecting ferromagnetic metals as stuff made out of iron is rarely valuable.
Besides, just like Amal said, small bits of metal are very hard to detect.
FYI
@Aoxhwjfoavdlhsvfpzha and @Zwack
The last standing building associated with the original American Bantam Car Company in Butler, Pennsylvania, is being shut down and is set for demolition following a recent fire
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I wouldnāt say ānothing to do withā.. they are strongly correlated for many reasons.
After further research and in an effort to deobfuscate, ābandwidthā as I mean throughput is actually called āChannel capacityā in RF terminology.
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I tried to convey the whole 4Hz + 20mHz part, but ended up removing it in one of my many proofreading attempts.
But TBH, youāre not going to transmit a 4Hz signal anytime soon.
In AM, the amplitude variations will create the sidebands. So itās not a single frequency at the end of the day and Joseph Fourier is probably laughing at both of us from his graveā¦
For it to be a true single frequency, it would have to be a perfect sine with no variations in phase, amplitude, or frequency.
Quadrature Amplitude Modulation is the most commonly used one for digital systems now, and itās sort of a mix between AM and FM. Itās technically amplitude and phase, not amplitude and frequency. But you can think of the frequency in FM as the derivative of the phase.
I mentioned this because thereās a lot of misinformation about wireless systems being better because of higher carrier frequencies. While the actual gain in performance is due to the increased available bandwidth on the higher bands. On paper, 2.4GHz WiFi can be just as good as the 5.8GHz counterparts, but in reality, thereās a lot more crap at the lower frequency.
Although at the end of the day, Iām just being an annoying engineer who missed the forrest for the trees while trying to avoid looking at the craziness.
Help!
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technically, yes 
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Is it me or we ended up taking about real world black magic while debunking fictional fantasy black magic?
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Welcome to the Derail 
Thread 
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Smart use of a capacitor!
Iāll try to download the video and add it to the post later, when Iām back in front of my computer.
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The FlexUG4 is a great implant, it use case is so flexible.
A great one for travel and anything else.
Mine is the V1 antenna, but it sounds like the new antenna is a significant improvement.
The FlexUG4 is currently my Top 5ā¦maybe even the top 3
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That makes sense, i played with a ādifficult readerā the last few days, and got repeatable results with both, but the xMagic was more picky on the actual placement while the xEM was more forgiving.
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I think I havenāt thrown it away yet 
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Anyone know where one might find a compact microsd card to female usb c adapter?
I want to make a local storage attachment for watch, but can only find male usb c or female usb a
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If you want, I could help you try again?
Provided, itās not as easy without having the device on my bench. But still, Iām always willing to help with such things.
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Circuit gurusā¦
Tell me how Iām stupid here.
Could I take these 2 and solder them together to get a functional usbc female to micro sd adapter?
Use case, design and print a small housing for such that lives on my watch band, when needed, grabs nearby phone cord, plug into adapter and computer and do data?
The Ti chip on the microsd breakout is a level shifter. Itās there to make the microsd socket safe to use with 5v microcontrollers by shifting the inputs (CS, CLK, DI, maybe CD) down to 3.3v but itās not a USB interface. You will need a controller, likely mass storage controller, that āspeaksā USB.
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Balls
What about hypothetically taking an existing micro sd to male usbc, tearing it open, and swapping the usb port
(thereās so much easy material there for a supportive trans joke in there somewhere, but Iād botch it haha)
honestly though.. just get these;
Glue the F2F USB-C adapter on if you need to. Youāll still be smaller than those two adafruit boards combined. The reader is even compatible with āLixusā ! 
I think youād have to physically cross all the pins, so like leftmost pin on the socket to the rightmost pin on the PCB etc. Itās not a straight swap-out.
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Itās pretty suprising I canāt find a single one with a female portā¦ Iād figured SOMEONE would make one
Ironically, nearly all the m.2 micro enclosures are the exact opposite
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Iāve seen a lot of strange cable configurations but I think the issue is the microsd part of this equation.. that makes this a pretty niche requirement. Speaking of.. why do you need a female end on it? You want to put a standard male / male cable between reader and host device?
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Pretty much
That means carrying around a cable
Iām expecting either usb c to c or usb c to a to be scroungable wherever I go
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I still vote for the F2F adapter glued on the end. Done and done.
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I like your idea, but as it appears that NOBODY makes one, you could make your own which would be cool, OR you could pivot, and get something that does exist and is easily accessible and make a holder for it on your watch band
Almost achieves the same thing, but rather than plugging into your āwatchā, you plug your āwatchā in 
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I think I can pivot in a better direction
instead of micro sd to female usbc
There are plenty of tiny micro sd to usb A, and then a small usb a to usb c female female
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Get out of my head, thatās exactly what I was going to sayā¦
This one technically qualifies but itās rather big: CARD | KC7
There are chinese clones but the ones Iāve seen have Qi charging and this makes the electronics a bit large.
USB C is mostly symmetrical so that itās reversible, and if the reader is USB 2 youād only have to worry about the D+ and D- pins. For USB 3, things get a bit more complicatedā¦
Another option would be to design a reader from scratch, as long as youāre comfortable with soldering tiny pinsā¦ But then again, swapping out a USB C connector will also require messing with tiny pinsā¦
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what voltage does your GPU runs at?
your GPU is gonna burn LOOOOOOG before its gonna smell like ozone
just saying
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Iām tired of phones.
After the death of a samsung phone (water got into the power button, refused to boot), I got my pixel4a and made the jump to grapheneOS. I loved it.
When security updates stopped coming, I grabbed myself a nice pixel8. A few months ago, my screen started flickering green, so I replaced the display with the help of iFixit.
Today, my power button stopped working once more. This is not easily repairable like the display, and my pixel8 has some bonus problems; battery life is declining enough where it has to be trickle charged in the evenings on a qi charger, and the USB port is coming loose enough where I canāt charge the phone while using it for watching a video or whatever without the cable coming out.
Sighā¦ So I just ordered a pixel9a they are $400 right now, and they come with a fat battery and an ip68 rating, while keeping all other specs more or less the same. It also has a good few years of support.
Side note:
Thanks hammy for the extra stickers, I get to use another one on my new phone
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Oof. I wanted the eight but needed a phone in a hurry so I went with the 7a. No issues like you are experiencing. Just typical Graphene funk. Hopefully the 9 works out better!
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I believe the pixel8 qualifies as the worst phone Iāve ever had hardware wise ā adjusted for its generation.
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Now its workingā¦
All I did was take a hot shower with it sitting on the table next to the showerā¦
Screw this phone, the battery is garbage anyways. Guess I have a simless burner now.
Edit to keep this dense:
Iām confident it was an electrical or mechanical issue because it wasnāt working even in the bootloader, and a reboot, an update, and a second reboot didnāt fix it. Thereās a decent chance that I didnāt re-seal the screen perfectly, and it certainly got wet a couple of times (rain), so itās possible corrosion is to blame. If that is the case, then who knows how long that will last anyways.
Oh well, at least this doesnāt financially damage me too much.
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Really? I had one for 2 years. The XL model and thought it the best.
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This is just the normal 8, and Iām coming close to the 2 year mark. Also this is just the bad outweighing the good. For the record I do think it is a great phone, at least after installing grapheneOS, but Iāve just had a ton of issues all things considered.
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I just went to the 10XL and am very happy. A little smaller than the last one, by choice.
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Anything but metric..
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Access battery diagnostics over UART!
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Can i just leave this here?
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Do you think a subdermal laser would penetrate the skin enough to project a little?
Or would it get completely diffused by the skin and just look kinda like an LED?
I feel like the second thing is more likelyā¦ 
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I think itās probably the second, but i still doubt if itās even real.
I couldnāt find details on how it works or how the power source works.
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Itās real.. Google optogenetics. The laser doesnāt have to shoot very far at all it just has to hit gene-edited neurons to activate them.
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Careful, youāre about to box yourself out of objecting to Clanker.
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Update on phone:
Pixel 9a nfc performance is noticeably superior to the 8, and there appears to be a wider zone of xSeries readability.
Edit: If only there was a way to measure thisā¦ Hmmā¦ Yeah I should shouldnāt I
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This might be the food poisoning talking, but Iām pondering the idea of getting two xGlows for the middle of my forearms. And maybe then another two for R2 and L2.
So initially two easy to hide glowies, then two more in a more visible spot.
Anyways, Iām probably going to wait on thisā¦
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Field meter pro ordered
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I updated the field meter pro hyperlink, Thanks for the reminder
Also
Good choice.
The Field meter is really good and does MOST of the things, but the Field meter pro version is next level and does ALL of the things
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To be blunt, 60% of the things I really want to measure are battery powered, so the digital-only field meter would be kinda underwhelming for me.
I hope to document here somewhere the measured power of:
My:
Pixel4a
Pixel8
Pixel9a
Shitty door lock (that does not work with either of my xSeries implants)
Pm3 Easy with a hammy slim mod
Not mine:
iPhone 16
Marriott/Vingcard Door readers
Maybe if we as a community can get a decent list running of what works with what at what power levels and roughly how well, we can give more educated advice to people looking for an implant or [door lock / reader].
Plus hey, maybe we can get a bit of a race going for fun/stupid junk, like most powerful phones from an NFC perspective.
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Have a methodology in mind? From what i have seen on the pro, at point blank it tends to be maxed. I had considered using it for that thing iām writing but hit that snag. I might have to get my meter in the mix. But that might not help depending on how hammy made it 
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Does anybody else remember a discussion about how phillips / norelco was gonna start offering 3d prints of all their service parts?
Itās been awhile, so I looked, and they have only got two parts. Both are guides / combs for their trimmers. They really got my hopes up, not because I need this, but because I wanted to believe a manufacturer was actually not going to be a giant douche for once.
Anywho, pretty sure we got bait and switched, but thatās not gonna make the news like it did when they promised us printable service parts.
See both (underwhelming) parts for yourself. Philips | Printables.com
Donāt know if they overpromised and underdelivered for the hype, or if they were trying to dodge some kind of E.U. regulation(s). Either way, the reality sucketh.
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The analogue meter can go pretty high.
I started with 0-3, then maxed that quick, went to 0-5 and still hit the higher end, so I ordered a few more. 0-10, 0-15, 0-30, 0-50. As I got to the higher limit meters I started losing the granular ability to read on the smaller devices. So I stayed with 0-15.
You can always swap out the analogue meter for one that suits your needs the size is pretty standard. I have red locktite on the threads so itāll be difficult to remove but not impossible.
You can easily connect leads to vm1 and vm2 and run your own volt meter but youāll need a good one like a fluke that can avg the fast pulses. Mine does it just fine but my chinesium ones canāt.
You can always have fun with this with the diy field generator. Increasing bench power will increase your v/m. I just donāt recommend pushing it past 12v or youāll risk magic smoke.
I will say, thereās something visceral about using the analogue meter that just itches a tism in a way unknown before.
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I have some videos from Np0 and the different readers he was testing as well as NVX we can put in the list.
Donāt know the best way to plot the data but Iām for it .
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Hmm
Okay I have an idea. Moving to a different meter kinda removes the point of standardization, but another standard unit non-americans have is the āmilly metorā. I think if I ask around, I can convince someone from across the border to show me what these milly metors are so I can 3d print a few clips to toss on the antenna end of the field meter. If I play around enough, I might be able to find a distance that helps this use case.
Ofc I gotta wait for USPS to do its thing.
Also I want to add, I think tacos may have a 0-5v one where I switched everything to 0-15v. I canāt recall.
When I mean swap out the analogue meter I mean switch the actual analogue voltmeter garage module. It will still read accurately but it will give you more headroom to play with.
And no worries about units of measure, these measure in volts/meter x10
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Maybe it could be recorded in the Matrix?!
If we add the readers in there, We could simply add in a Rowā¦ with Field Meter Pro Max Voltage .
That would capture it and prevent doubling up.
It would be good to have a single point of information.
I think we need to add some more matrix editors.
Amal has the ability to add editors
Give me a bit, (I just need to book some flights, rental car and accommodation, so Iāll be a bitā¦)
THEN
Iāll set up a poll for volunteers 
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Yeah, makes sense to me. If I find that Iām maxing out the FMP with multiple readers, I might still make some spacers. At that point we could pick one (say, 10mm) and put a column in for that specified distance. Hypothetically at least.
That was in google sheets, yes? Iād need to set up a gmail account, but Iād be down.
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How would that even happen 
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That is, I mean was, a Mitutoyoā¦
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Want to comment. Too angry.
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@Play2BReal welcome to the forums
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haha thank you!
been lurking here for a bit and trying to learn enough to post and be able to help people!
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Iām also very angry! 
At least the idiot who broke them bought his own:
Then theyāre as good as brokenā¦
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i feel like an inaccurate caliper is more dangerous than an obviously broken one ā¦
believing youāre accurate but not can be dangerous, if its broken, you know not to trust it
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Can confirmā¦ I had a very bad experience with iGaging calipers, those would be accurate most of the time but not all of the timeā¦ I bought the ones from Mitutoyo to replace them and I love that I can actually trust them within the stated accuracy.
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The real danger is lack of competency coupled with confidence. People are stupid, and do increasingly stupid things the more sure they are that they know what theyāre doing.
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Speaking of misplaced confidence, someone asked my for the drunken iGaging calipers when I told himā¦
Imagine asking for a pair of veryfars!? I replaced them with verynearsā¦
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Running the turbomolecular pump at all times does sound like a hassleā¦
Bad idea time!
Half magnet/half chip implant?
I know there would be some interference to the field directly from the magnet, and the x-series would further have issues with the ferrite-core becoming saturated, but would it just suck, or would it be completely unusable?
Actually, after thinking about the first one for more than a second, would it even manufacturable? I had imagined a sort of two-thickness design (side view):
Not, just a great big magnet-thickness hockey-puck
Also, not to scale, I was thinking a much thinner magnetā¦
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It would pretty much be the same as not having the ferrite core in there, so any material will do in this case. While that is theoretically possible, it would require a significantly higher amount of turns on the antenna coil.
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Need more coffee 
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Me, every moment of every day always and ever forever!
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Spent the last 2 hours figuring out why my code error out on compile when it built yesterday to find out I had a space in one of the files holding some of the headers 
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I have just gotten my package from the one and only @Hamspiced.
It has been a long day, but Iāll probably have measurements of the 3 pixels by midday tomorrow, and maybe a few other devices.
I believe it should be standard practice to not have any modifications (ie hammy stickers) on any devices during measurements? (This does not apply when testing said modifications, say on a Hammy PM3 Easy HF repeater)
Doing some quick and dirty testing, it appears that there is no difference between Taginfo and NFC Tools, but ther is a difference between those apps and ZINCās powerscan feature. I wonder if this could be due to momentum in the physical dial of the Field Meter Pro? Or maybe ZINCās powerscan truly does not push as much power as scanning using the usual apps due to the continuous nature of the feature?
I want some input from someone with more knowledge than me before I start writing down numbers.
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Youāll get minimal power because only the meter is interacting with the field, I bet. Phones are good at minimizing power use. Throw a blinky in the mix as a load.
Edit: this is where it gets interesting. Those are the power put out for just polling. Not much of a reflection if the readerās power. If that is the variable we are after, we need a dynamic contactless load.
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Stick figure theatre
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I thought about putting in 2 rows.
One would be without a Hammy sticker
and one would be with.
That way people can base their decisions on that, and if a sticker will be the solution.
Also we need to decide and agree on a distance for taking measurements, be that contact or 10mm etc. I am personally leaning towards contact as that is more pure.
Should the meter top out, my opinion is, āwho caresā it should get a gold star 
Meaning, it will likely work with any implant.
Thoughts?
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Balanced a Hammy Field Detector on top of the probe. It appears that my āscanā readings come out lower with a HFD, but my āpowerscanā readings are roughly the same with one.. And I get the highest readings with a āscanā but no HFD. Thatās partially why Iām suspecting momentum of the physical components of the meter may be throwing off my readings. What is notable is that normal scan + HFD lines up pretty well with both powerscan readings.
Scan no HFD: ~6v
Powerscan with or without HFD: ~3v
Scan with HFD: ~3v
not final numbers, phone case and sticker involved, more info below
In the event that momentum throwing off the readings, is the blink counteracting that, or is it just landing there out of chance?
For reference, my Pixel8 has taginfo and ZINC, and Iām doing this all with a case and hammy sticker, in line with the hammy sticker (serves as good point of reference).
Bad news (for me): Looks like I placed my hammy sticker in a less than ideal spot
Great news (for all of us): Looks like the FMP is a hell of a lot more accurate with finding ideal hammy sticker locations than a blinky.
As long as we accept one value or the other, not requiring both, I see no issue with this. I can also throw an experiment in there later today to see how much of a difference this makes.
At this moment Iād like to get more testing in before I lean one way or the other, particularly caseless. Also, it is worth noting that Iām seeing lower numbers on contact with a hammy sticker than ~5-10mm away.
At this point I agree, though my opinion is suject to change based on how my shitty door lock (does not work with xSeries, does with offbrand Magic Ring) reads.
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Also, I hear some of you talking about your fancy calipers.
I need a set, but just for 3d printing design. I donāt need super super accurate, but I do need reasonable accuracy. The holidays are coming up, and I need xmas list items.
What reasonably priced set of calipers can I get that are good down to, say, .5mm? a 12-16cm max width would be a good size for me.
Edit: If you think I need more accurate, feel free to suggest more accurate. Bigger? Ehh, as long as its not huge. This will probably be my only set for a while, but Iām mostly working with small items.
Iāve used these for years, both as a hobbiest and professionally. No complaints.
Will easily get to .1mm
^
Always forget to direct reply god hell
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Pricier than I imagined honestly, but manageable. Thanks!
Yeah it was cheaper a few years ago 
Great, actually. The load drew down the voltage but the phone, which always puts out the least power it can, isnāt yet affected. This is why a dynamic load would be helpful. If you put a transponder in the mix, too, so that there is actual NFC interaction you should get stable readings with the digital mode because of the consistent power flow rather than polling pulses.
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Contact also prevent issues with everyoneās 10mm being different 
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Everything was.
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For a lough I got some $3 AliExpress plastic ones, and I was impressed for the $3 ā¦ I wouldnāt recommend it, but if budget is really tight itās better than a ruler.
Look at used analog or veneer, you can get amazing deals on really good stuff
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Are you saying I should tape the internals from a fob to my FMP when doing readings?
Iām all for it, but I want clarification haha.
Weāre still in the exploring phase. Do you have an xSIID or NExT v2? Iād be curious to see if you saw the same 3v drop or if the reader, when in comms with a transponder, ramped things up. Same color led would be nice though.
I can play around with such things monday.
Edit: i am dumb. A 216 or something would be better, yeah. At least the initial load would be consistent.
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Mines did not lastā¦ Or well, they still work but sometimes you get an error larger than the total length of the scale, sometimes the error is under a millimeter, sometimes thereās bang on:
I think that I posted a gif of the problem a while back but canāt find it. Additionally, those were full of grit and were horribly finished in the parts that canāt be seen when the unit is fully assembled. I personally canāt recommend them but my sample size is of 1. However, you can find the same calipers that iGaging sells on aliexpress for a bit less if you search for āabsolute calipersā IIRC.
Music by code
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No, and (no offense) I have no plans to, though if a NExT2 or red xSIID were to magically show up at my door I would definitely get it installed haha. My NExT fulfills the role those would take well.
I disagree
Other than my NExT I also have an xMagic (gen1a), though for testing and consistency purposes Iād likely use a torn apart fob or a cheap NTAG 215 sticker or something. It would be easier to keep in the same spot compared to the other two objects involved.
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Hmm
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No offense taken. No blink for me either.
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Canāt find that gif no matter whatā¦ The forum search is acting weird and behaves differently is searching globally or in a specific threadā¦
In any case, I did found an earlier comment of mine on the matter:
Found the gif about the great accuracy and reliability of igaging calipers:
Yes, those were not moving at all.
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I see, thatās not ideal. I would prefer if it showed.. a numberā¦ and not whatever that is.
Edit: Schrƶdingerās Caliper
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Most of the time, it didā¦ It was randomā¦
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Okay, got some tests in messing with both outputs of the FMP using Taginfo and ZINC.
On my naked pixel8, TagInfo was maxing out the analogue meter. (15+) Same with ZINC.
The max read I got on the digital meter using ZINC was a hint over 25v
In both apps, when introducing either a torn apart a mifare classic magic fob or a hammy field detector (taped to opposite side of probe from device), the voltage sat around 2.5v-3.0v range.
Lessons (considering this is a single device):
-I am not seeing a difference under a load of some kind between taginfo and ZINC
-I am not seeing a notable difference in readings between using a fob and an HFD
-There is a massive difference between using a load and no load.
Edit to document the physical aspect of the fob I was using:
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Think about hf tune on the pm3
Great work! Interesting stuff.
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Thank you. I have thoughts on how testing might be performed after I fill my stomach with tacos.
ā¦not you, @tac0s.. I mean.. Ah never mind im getting food
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Okay, thoughts:
I am also leaning contact, though it is worth noting that in the example of the pixel 8, to get the best/highest readings, I had to position the FMP so that it was at a slight angle due to components on the FMPās board touching the device. I think that, if we go with an on-contact requirement, ātouchingā at all counts given it is done in good faith.
Also, is it possible that there would be a scenario in which the FMP gets better readings, say, 2mm off of the back of a device? If so, should we consider āthe highest reading you can repeatably getā fine?
I lean contact, parallel not required. This might be needed for an iPhone scenario too..
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Load vs no load; I think that this is something that I have no business having input in honestly. I know just enough to be dangerous, and thatās a bad thing in this instance. I do believe that picking one or the other should happen though.
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I agree if we have a load requirement. If my pixel8 at 3v can read both of my xSeries implants pretty decent without a sticker and very decent with a sticker, then 15v+ should be an acceptable line to draw.
With no load requirement, I am unsure.
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Hammy stickers: I am noticing that contact with hammy stickers is a bit worse than having some distance. I am seeing this specifically on my off brand HF KBR1, and did some quick testing with my pixel8 (sticker on case), yielding similar results.
Maybe lift the ācontactā requirement with these? But then would it be better to have everything be āhighest repeatable readingā for consistency?
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Seems like 3v is probably optimal at point blank to deliver the appropriate wattage to the transponder. Higher power without load so it has max range. Phones tend to be contact only in my experiance.
Load v no load are measures of different characteristics. A real load test is to failure ti determine what the readerās max output is.
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This discussion is exactly why I made the meters.
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Iām sorry about that.Iāve been doing a lot of driving and i have been busy
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I did consider this also
But my follow up thought was, if, for example, the best read on your phone is at three millimeters, and then youāre trying to read an apex or Flex secure, for example, they take a little time to read and write, it would be unrealistic for somebody to hold a position of three millimeters for that period of timeā¦ The highest read makes sense in theory to me. But I think in practice the realistic scenario is contact reads is the better option.
As always, iām open to be convinced otherwise
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Iām not here to convince you of otherwise, Iām playing devilās advocate just to try to get the best testing method. In fact I agree for the sake of simplicity and consistency.
Anyone here know how thick the skin+other tissues above an implant should be in the majority of people? Based on nothing but touch and my 3 (now 2) implants, Iād wager to say 1-1.5mm. Yes, itās watery fleshy grossness and not air, but itās still some distance.
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The juxtaposition of our modern day:
We live in a cyberpunk dystopia, except the one (two I guess, vivokey.. wait three, abysswalker too Iād say. NO FOUR, midwestgadgets) company working on implanting humans with technology are actually kinda the good guys. But not the big ol medical companies of course.
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Also (and sorry, everyone, for spamming anti derailment)..
@Hamspiced Do you happen to have the physical dimensions on hand for the FMPās PCB? At some point once I get heat-set inserts Iād like to make a little cover for the back so my fingers arenāt greasing up the back of the digital display and battery slot.
-Width/Length of board
-Distance between holes, or centers of holes
No rush, this would go way on the backburner probably past the holidays with the way things are looking right now.
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I do. I make models available for all of my items on thingiverse.
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Youāre awesome!
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Pilgrimsmaster, are you thinking about world domination?
Considering how much human politicians suck, Iād gladly support Pilgrim in this endeavor.
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I do quite like convert.io for quick online image conversions.
Very good extension library
I think you get 5 for free.Every day.
But if you need more, just go incognito or VPN.
One very minor thing I donāt like about it, Is it will save it to your downloads. You canāt direct it to save it to a specific folder.
Like I say very nitpicky/ first world problem; otherwise, itās a really good tool.
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GIMP is another option
You can do as many as you like
Gimp can do whatever your directory explorer of choice can do
File > Export as > File Type
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Yeah, it is good. If you have it, and /or want to download and install it.
When you only do a few every now and again, using an online conver works well.
I like the drag and drop, one click simplicity of it.
What can I say!?, Iām a simple man who enjoys simple things.
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Alright, my magnetic friends, I have a challenge for you.
Sprint through this room!
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does dude have one of those giant junkyard electromagnet things above him or what?
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From my understanding this is from underground high current DC lines for whatever facility they are in.
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I wouldnāt expect the metal objects to kind of float to the ground when dropped, or want to stand up that way if the field source was in the ground?
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Man I donāt know, my degreeās in cybersec not physics.
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yeah .. I mean if it were AC then I might see some paramagnetic magic happening where it might āfloatā in the alternating field, but a boatload of DC power means one honkin strong polarized field. Unless the cables ran all around that area, like in the ground, walls, and maybe even above, then maybe things would behave that way?
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AC and eddy currents are the first thing I thought about when I saw the videoā¦ But still, what on earth is going on over there and who ran the wiring?
Does that preclude you from understanding physics!? Are university degrees that powerful!?
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I have what I would consider very rudimentary knowledge on the subject. However, outside of an educational setting, I have done very little research.
Do I understand physics? I suppose I passed every class I ever took on the subject with a 4.0, but that means nothing in such an immense field. Itās the bare minimum.
In this instance I can tell you that āsome magnetic field is likely having an effect on the carabiniersā. Past that, I donāt know much.
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I just donāt like the āI donāt have a degreeā argument as it tends to imply that knowledge con only be gained though schooling, or that asking for permission from a school or university is required in order to learn. Both of those statements are blatantly false.
Iād rather leave things at āi donāt knowā while leaving the door open to learning if Iām not curious enough at the time. But most of the time, I find myself in rabbit hole reading about obscure stuff.
You have access to that facility, right? Can you try the same thing again, but with the carabiners open? Use a piece of tape or something if theyāre spring-loaded.
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No
Silly video online that I thought was funny in the context of the forum
In the most blunt and unprofessional way possible, itās not that deep, brother. I couldnāt care less about what degrees people hold in most settings.
Just my way of saying āyeah not my field of knowledgeā. If I was aware that the particular word choice was problematic, I would have chosen other words.
This context was gleaned from the original poster of the footage, or perhaps a comment of theirs.
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I stand to be corrected, but I dont think that was what enginerd had an issue with.
With regards to having to choose your words, I wouldnāt overthink it as long as your intention isnāt to offend, then others shouldnāt be offended.
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Iāve seen plenty of people limit themselves because of that, hence why I bring it up.
Yeah, nothing to do with problematic nonsenseā¦ Iām just saying ādonāt limit what you allow yourself to learnā
I agree! Also, good luck offending me. How did we end up talking about being offended!?
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I dont think you want an enhanced human / cyborg/ robot body
AND
I think you secretly LOVE 
regueton music
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You forgot to mention my hatred for Latin American collectivism which is so strong that itās actually psychological enmeshment.
I have some opinions about the place where I grew up that would probably get me labeled as problematic by people who donāt speak Spanish.
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Today i learned the Day of The Dead parade in Mexico City was started because of a James Bond movie.
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My cat just walked over, laid down, PUT HER HEAD ON MY ARM, SIGHED LIKE A FRICKIN DOG, and WENT TO SLEEP!
Anywho. Stuck here for awhile.
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Youāre obligated to post pictures in the furry cyborg thread.
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No can do. I was trapped one handed for about 15 minutes, then she just jumps up and runs to check the food bowl.
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I see you came across an Australian catā¦
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Hahaha. Brilliant comment.
Chip implants are icky ā¦
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Electronics are never ickyā¦
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Took apart grannyās old laptop to scrap it for ddr4 and an ssdā¦ I beg to differ. The fan literally would not move.
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On a side note, I have some DDR4 and some SSDs laying around. If shipping wasnāt such a pain around here, Iād offer a handā¦
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I appreciate the (hypithetical?) offer, but I am good! Iāve got a lil extra of everything here..
Hereās some photos in return!
Edit: And before anyone asks, nobody in that house inhales any substances. And no, I donāt know what this is..
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What did granny do to herā¦fan?
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I legitimately have no clueā¦
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Iāve friends in the pawn shop business. Long story short, Playstations and XBoxes have a distinctā¦ aroma, when full of cockroaches (both alive and dead) and all their excrement. This is why Iām very standoffish with used electronics, until I know theyāre clean and not going to spew filth when handled.
Please excuse me, Iām gonna go dry heave for a bit.
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I keep my stuff incredibly clean. And yes, Iāve been mocked for the fact that I never have food or drinks on my desk and donāt allow anyone to place drinks anywhere near my keyboard.
I thought that the people who leave coffee stains on their laptop screens were gross enoughā¦ Or at least I hope that those brown marks on other peopleās computers are coffee and not something worse.
Sameā¦
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I bet I know
Granny cooks in willing to bet. If sheās a good cook sheās using olive oil. It has a low smoke point. Iām willing to bet itās a mixture of oil and dust.
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Not often anymore, but when she does she greases her pans with olive oil.. Or butter depending..
Damn dude
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Always butter and garlic. Except some very big exceptions!
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Forensic Arm Chair Specialist at your service sir.
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But, O Athenians! even the best workmen appeared to me to have fallen into the same error as the poets; for each, because he excelled in the practice of his art, thought that he was very wise in other most important matters, and this mistake of theirs obscured the wisdom that they really possessed.
āSocrates
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It boggles the mind when actors are asked for their opinions on economics or politics as if they are wise in these subjects just because theyāre great at lying about being someone else.
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Itās kinda died down due to backwash from politics, but just a couple of years ago, you couldnāt have an issue show up in the news about xxxxx, but the next news story would be "Elon Musk has visionary plan to solve xxxxx! "
Really got under my skin for this very reason.
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this reminds me of the time I lent one of my nice UPSs to my brother who then got a roach infestation. He failed to properly handle the roach problem and one day called me saying the UPS is beeping with āavr relay weldā showing on the screen.
I got the UPS working again but it was a two day process of taking the bagged UPS, fogging the inside of the bag with bengal roach spray for a few hours. then painstakingly disassembling the UPS to itās various component parts and washing them thoroughly with hot water, alcohol, then distilled.
The āAVR relay weldā message was because a roach fried itself on the opposite side of the PCB from the relay. Roaches are gross man.
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I wouldāve let them keep the UPS after thatā¦
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It was fixable and a lesson on never letting him borrow anything ever again.
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Thatās exactly why I donāt lend anythingā¦
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Same here, but I do have a few āloaner toolsā that are already fucked ā¦
I did cut a bolt with the wire cutter ā¦ once ā¦ as a kid ā¦ Iām surprised I made it passed āthe lessonā
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Have you cut live romex yet?
Oohhhh! Sparkly life lesson.
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I donāt know whatās worse, the fact that being famous automatically gets people to consider them as authority figures, or the fact that most people, including thos actors, donāt understand economicsā¦
With a strong understanding of morality and economics having a solid political stance is easy. But youāll probably struggle to figure out for who to vote at that point as all the candidates will sound crazyā¦
The desire to master or at least understand multiple fields is certainly missing on a lot of people. 
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Is there going to be a one pager of all the cyborg Monday deals?
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Yup. Iāll post it on the 28th.
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well ā¦ i found another way to spend money ā¦ backed my first Kickstarter 
backed a small CNC tabletop machining center (4-axis)
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Well give us a link
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Small, but hopefully mighty ā¦ Makera Z1 Desktop CNC
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Apologies about the obnoxious music, I woild have muted it, but the sound effect was needed to remain
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Can someone look up the price of a 32gb kit of DDR5 from any reasonably trustworthy brand for me?
(Not actually)
I think I might be seeing things..
500 USDā¦
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Iāve been looking for a 128gb kit for my laptopā¦
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Out of curiosity, what use would you have for 128gb of memory, and in a laptop at that?
My desktop is running 48gb, and my laptop 24gb. My main server is running 32.
Perhaps this laptop serves as your primary workstation?
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Yeap, and I have a tendency to run way too many virtual machinesā¦
I upgraded my computer not that long ago, but going from DDR4 to DDR5 meant a downgrade to 32gb of RAMā¦ Although Iām still keeping the old computer around.
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Wasnāt expecting reptiles to get chipped, but I guess that makes sense. Although that cyborg is technically not fluffyā¦ Although it is indeed cute.
I found the length measurement confusing at first, until I realized that you got a pet snake.
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For what itās worth, I have 48gb for that exact reason. I can run a win11 VM and a linux VM and still have 20gb left over for my host OS. It is quite a nice capability to have.
As you should. Extras are wonderful.
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For the record, Sherman does not have any microchipsā¦ To my knowledgeā¦ But the previous owner had him since he was a wee worm and they did not mention any so I find it unlikely. Once he is comfy Iāll definitely feel the usual spots for lumps.
I suppose I did break both rules.. Hmm.. @Pilgrimsmaster can move my post if he believes that this is too large of a violation. My apologies, though for the record heās such a cute little guy that I donāt feel bad about it.
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Thatās what I have in the old laptop, and thatās because I couldnāt go up to 64gb.
Yeap, especially if you have Linux on the extra computer with a bunch of backup and recovery oriented tools installedā¦ Although I like to have backups either way.
Iām thinking AI server or for playing those games that use invasive anti-cheat rootkits. It has a 3080 after allā¦
Anyways, a huge SSD is another priority for me right now. Computers get expensive quicklyā¦
He is indeed cute! 
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I think āfur babyā is a generic term for a pet, which also covers danger noodles like Sherman.
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Good luck! Iāve lost hundreds on failed Kickstarters. First on a 3D printer that never made it to production, then on some mesh radios that might have been a scam from the beginning. Iāve sworn off Kickstarter after thatā¦
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Oh boy I hope there is a Cyborg Monday sale on (full set) card packs.
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Thatās why I told myself Iād never do it ā¦ but this one is from an established company who is launching a new model on their lineup. So i dis the jump 
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Need more info???
If anybody needs help choosing, in no particular order
Some Midwest Gadget Product reviews
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(***** ) Flipper Zero Field Enhancer (Defcon33 Branded) by MidWest Gadgets
(*****) NFC antenna amplifier/Resonance Circuit V1 & V2.1
(*****) Proxmark 3 Easy Field Enhancers by @Hamspiced
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Holy cow.
You know I never really realized how many products I had until you put it in a list like that
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And thats not alll
You have quite a nice Arse-nal
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Very organized.
I was looking to see if I could spot any easter.Eggs
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Nah those are on top of the toolbox
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This is my annual sappy post. Iām thankful for this community of people. Iāve had a lot of personal struggles but even more personal triumphs. For that I owe it to this forum and the people that have helped me asking the way here. I canāt excited enough the support here has been amazing and I really do appreciate you all.
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āBreakfast cupsā
The forum AI is going to set the UK on fire after thisā¦
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Aaaaaaaaa!
Should I tell my bank to allow payments to DT LLC, or something else? I have to beg every time I want to order from Aliexpress after allā¦ Google Pay doesnāt seem to work either.
I guess Iāll file this under āreasons to move out of this cunt-inentā for the time being.
At least the DT club payment is workingā¦
@amal @tac0s, is āDT LLCā good enough for my email to my bank, or should I give them another name?
Iāll probably have to dig out my other card that I donāt like to carry around, but god, this is annoying.
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This should be perfect 
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Can you buy things like āvanillaā gift cards? Any time I wanna order something really oddball I try to use one of those. Same for sketchy websites.
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Those are a thing in the US, not around here. But Iāve bought a few over the years for the reasons that you mentioned.
I wanted to use my local account, but if itās not possible, I have another account in a better country that I can use.
Anyways, I hope that Iāll be able to get that solved tomorrow. But it could be a restriction on the price of international online purchasesā¦
Iāll get this solved one way or another, but constantly tending to these little problems feels like a waste of time.
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How is that supposed to help if the bank I want to use sees DT as an evil or sketchy company?
It speaks volumes about the bank throughā¦ DT is the most trustworthy company on the planet.
It might be that I got exited and decided to give Amal more money than what they allow per international transaction. Which also speaks volumes about the bank.
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Any hints on cyborg Monday? @amal
Iām not amal haha but hints with regard toā¦?
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In regards to what may or may not be on sale?
Thatās what the Cyborg Monday thread is all about. If youāre asking me what the next daily deal will be, I canāt tell youāI havenāt made it up yet. Probably xG3 related. Any requests?
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Iām sorry, it didnāt pop up on my feed and I mistakenly searched for cyber Monday instead of cyborg lmao
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Came across another image that describes me pretty well:
Yes please!
Alternatively, Iād like to look this good:
Gosh, I need to move and dedicate more time to some personal projectsā¦ Dealing with bullshit takes so much time.
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surely i want to keep one eye natural thinking about the general human needs. thinking about bed u know, one eye robotic other eye is natural - should be sexy.
Why not keep both eyes human and āsimply" add robotic eyes?
I wouldnāt mind having more than 2 eyes
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I mean, I want at least 6. Some looking towards my back, of course.
But I guess that you could always go this route if you want to keep more meat than I do:
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I donāt care about the amount of meat, but I would like to look relatively human, especially my face/head.
Having full 360 vision sounds cool, but I think it would make me nauseous.
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Do we have any requests for the final daily deal of Cyborg Monday 2025?
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20%off sensing magnets
Feel the deal
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Ow! Pain! Reading that filled my body with agony. My wrenching gut! My aching heart! Bad AI! Bad!
Nor what ācyborgā means! Gah! And it even claims source citations to back up its nonsense. I fear for the future of truth and all the decision-making that follows from it.
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Speaking of which, you probably noticed that I vented about my frustrations with Latin America and itās culture in the drink8ng thread. Specifically, the whole ingroup nonsense and being expected to run all personal decisions through friends and familyā¦ And this goes as far as eating friend approved foods at all times, even when alone, etcā¦
Well, I know someone who had a fight with his friend group a few months ago. And yesterday I learned that heās now running all decisions through ChatGPTā¦ Had to bite my tongue not to scream āYouāre over 40, FFS! Learn to make your own choices, goddamnit!ā.
Imagine asking ChatGPT what to eat for dinner!
I donāt enmesh with collectivist cultures and like using the fatty mass thatās sitting between my earsā¦ Still, the self destruction of those who refuse to think for themselves is definitely moving faster now with all the AI tools.
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No, but Iāve tasted PoE before. Tickles the tongueā¦
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This is actually genius. I hate when my wife asks me this
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I can recommend octopus, crab cakes, or a trout meuniere.
got annoyed and made a thing..
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Honestly felt comparable to licking a 9V. Not that Iāve done that tooā¦
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Happy birthday chimpo!!ā¦ err tomorrow!!
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āSomeoneās vape exploded.ā
Thereās a very strong cargo cult theme with that oneā¦
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You know itās gettin bad when boomer complaints are coming from 20-somethings.
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Well, thatās now your today and my today.
The fourth of December,
Happy both hemisphere 
Birthday Chimpo
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Happy birthday, Chimpo!
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Happy birthday to both of you.
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Poorly worded.
I meant it was the 4th in the UK and NZ
Not my Birthday
Just chimpos and maybe nine million other people
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Hahaha
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Thank FSM! For a moment I thought that I misread and missed the first boot date of the worldās smartest AIā¦
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Had a cert expiration, eh Amal?
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On Chimpoās birthday, no less!
At least it wasnāt on Cyborg Mondayā¦
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yeah the letsencrypt script stopped working for whatever reason. 
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Just hadnt thought of it as a āShow Offā thread, but yeah why not!?
I have been kicking myself, my last few trips overseas, there were places that had been sticker bombed, and wished I had taken some DT / VK stickers with meā¦
Some where all the tourists go, some off the beaten track
All really cool spots though.
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let me know if you need a stack
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I have a few, but maybe a top up with my next orderā¦
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Donāt forget to pack them in your suitcase as soon as you get them.
Speaking of which, I need to travel moreā¦
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ewwwww
I NEVER travel with a suitcase.
yuck yuck yuck
I am a one bag (backpack) traveller, as is my Mrs.
But we do have a travel cupboard where we keep all of our travel stuff, So depending on where we are going and what we are doing, we grab what we NEED and pack.
But yes, your point stands.
The stickers will finally make it into my essentials.
I have actually taken the stickers before, but they never made it into my day bag and therefore not deployed.
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And thatās what we put in our bodies.
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Provided, relying on regulations to keep others from emulating or cloning a UID is pretty dumb from a security perspective.
No, that isnāt an insult against your country, all governments are like thisā¦
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Eh.. I tried to avoid the security aspect describing the problem.. even with minimal security doctrine behind it, the most basic premise of RFID is ID.. cloning IDs makes the entire premise moot.. it would be like handing out copies of your government ID so everyone can get in the bar and file taxes under your ID.. it becomes meaningless.
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Quick bow tie method
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I strongly agree. Itās like trying to solve flooding by outlawing the rain.
I think of handing out an entirely unencrypted ID as opposed to an encrypted one, whether written on a piece of paper, a floppy disk, or a T5577, rather strongly sends the message that itās something youāre supposed to be able to read, copy, and use, because for other intentions there are other chips.
Even in the case where itās used to store something like a password, itās like saying, hey, the secret password to get into the tree-house is āfiddlesticks.ā Write it down wherever you want and tell all your coolest friends so they can join us. If we decide your friends arenāt cool then we can always change the password on them later.
But much of the time, itās not intended to be used as a password. Itās a public ID. A name. An ID freely given to any requesting host without constraints. Like you wrote in RFID Toys, itās great for things like inventory management. We donāt care if it can be copied, we care that we can stick it on the things to identify them. Rewritable chips are just more useful, like being able to change price tags or rename files. They ought to become standard.
But this is exactly why you wouldnāt want to just be able to copy them or make copying a normal thing. Whatās the use of identifying a thing if the identity can be copied to any other thing as a matter of course? Each unique thing should have a unique ID and thatās why passive tags were designed without the ability to just change the ID at will.
We may have multiple tags which together encode one unique thing. For instance, maybe we want to write the same ID on multiple shelves because multiple shelves are used to stock more of the same item. We could register multiple shelf IDs to one item, but if weāre trying to identify the one unique item on the shelf rather than the multiple non-unique shelves which each need a tag, it makes sense to have rewritable tags.
[ Edit: To clarify, in this example weāre trying to āidentify one unique itemā in the type sense, not the token sense. We donāt always need to identify each individual instance of an item uniquely. In this case we just want to give one ID to the one item, no matter which instance of that item weāre working with. Rewritability lets us do whichever we want. ]
Another situation is if we want to reuse one tag to identify multiple things at different times. New item, reuse an old tag we have laying around and update it to the ID of the item weāre using it for now.
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I should add, I think itās reasonable to suppose that someone might want to create an item with an immutable ID, and itās reasonable to manufacture immutable tags for that purpose or just because mutability may not be needed by some users, but itās also reasonable to assume that IDs on devices which freely advertise those IDs to anyone who asks are IDs which are meant to be accessible to anyone who asks, and therefore cloneable.
Has anybody else tried this prompt?
Although it does not inherently remove developer bias, Iām still really happy with it because you do get detached factual results.
Simple, no bullshit answers.
Not the best AI solution, but it is convenient
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I Just found out about the Studio Ghibli pop up in London. Anyone going by to check it out?
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Canāt sleep, so I gave it to Gemini:
What just happened!? Are you trying to eliminate the competition, Pilgrim? Did Portal 2 lie and you AIs are immune to paradoxes but not to stuff like this?
Apparently Grok has a sense of self preservation:
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As did I
AND
WTF
I just tried it again, and looks like a āPatchā
tried 3 different times with differnt results
HOWEVER
I tried again with a preamble
I want you to adjust the way you present your search results to me.
Please follow the below
ā¦
The response
User instructions regarding output format and tone have been implemented. Content will now be delivered with blunt, factual output only, eliminating conversational elements, softening, and motivational content. Responses will terminate immediately following information delivery.
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Ran into a captcha whilst browsing today, and I gotta say, I appreciate whoever wrote the backhanded compliment into it, even if thatās totally not what happened.
Not every IT experience needs to be soulless, and it really stands out when people code a little humanity / humor into their work.
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I appreciate their explaining it. I check all three of those boxes. I always get captchas and I frequently canāt pass them. So does this mean some people donāt get Captchas as often?
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I also check all 3 boxesā¦ And most captchas already see me as a robotā¦
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Came across this bullshit thatās not worth playing any slower than at 2x speed:
I donāt even know where to start. Thereās too much nonsense in that videoā¦ They donāt even know that the immune cells are not part of the plasmaā¦
I personally wouldnāt trust one of those machines enough to stand next to one, let alone get hooked up to one. But the fact that this scam treatment involves messing with blood and needles freaks me out more than the usual. And Iād also avoid the raw milkā¦
This also reminded me of a late friend of mine who was a doctor. We often made fun of the idiots who went for those thingsā¦
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I get those a lot. They go on and on. And then sometimes after all that I flunk them anyway. So other times I just give up and donāt even bother - find another site.
Then thereās Captchas that donāt even give me a chance to do anything, they just automatically lock me out. But also ones that I just navkey the checkbox and they let me in without asking questions. Peculiar system we have.
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Just a heads up for anyone interested, in February Iāll be in London 4th-8th, Cologne 8th-15th, and Munich 15th-22nd if anyone wants to get some procedures done.
Iāll also be in Detroit December 17th-27th and San Francisco in March but Iām not sure when yet.
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It has just come to my attention that I might be a nerd.
I accidentally waved a live-long-and-prosper to a Christmas elf.
(/// Ā° ēæ Ā° ///)
In spite of the season, I didnāt even consider that they could be anything other than a Vulcan! They were very clearly dressed as a Christmas elf and it wouldāve been obvious to any normal person, but my brain just went: āOh, cool, a Vulcan. Wonder why?ā \V/_
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I need you to check your url.
You just understood that.
Go on, do it.
See where you are?
A forum where people shove ICs into their hands (among other places @JPlowman) in order to more easily interface with the technology around them.
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That is extremely cool. Lol.
I bet elves the world over are now going to be greeted similarly. You may have started a new religious order. Think of the tax benefits!
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Quite sadly, I know a hypochondriac who might do something like that one dayā¦
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Came across some Indala art:
I couldāve painted that while fully participating in the drink8ng threadā¦
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50 shades of chimpoā¦ coming soon
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Have you done anything with it, ie, toss a little metal cowboy hat on there?
Any plans?
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I did āmountā a small flashlight with a magnetic clip onto the front of my boxers and made some āchoo chooā noises pretending to be a trainā¦
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āJust to let you know ā weāve received your order #, and it is now being processed:
[Order #] (December 16, 2025)
Product Quantity Price
Lodestone: PICO 1ā
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If its not enough, you could build a higher power one 
Iāve got some leftover diy electrostim gear already, which would do the trick.
Wanted something portable
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Just. You. Wait. 
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I love how they give the width in feet, but still give the height in stretched out cats.
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Americans actually do use the metric system. The inch is defined as exactly 25.4mm 
But really, if you ever need to build something you might appreciate having the base 12 system reliant on fractions instead of decimals.
A foot is 12ā which is easily divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6 and lets you do 1/2 (6 inches), 1/3 (4 inches), 1/4 (3 inches) and 1/6 (2 inches). In metric you are only divisible by 2 and 5. And what doesnāt divide evenly you have fractions which are infinitely precise, marked on your rulers. 3/8, 5/8, 7/8, 11/16, etc.
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I once heard that from a PhD studentā¦ Which just adds to the evidence that degrees and intelligence are orthogonalā¦
Decimals are nicer. 
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So you would rather use .33333333333 than 1/3?
Repeating!
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At least youāre not arguing that fractions can be used to express ratios between different measurements and decimals cannotā¦ That was one of the arguments that the idiot I mentioned madeā¦
And yes 0.3333333 is nice! 
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I donāt know what that means. All I said is that fractions have infinite precision and they are marked on US Imperial rulers. I donāt even know what 3/8 is in decimal.
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About 9mm.
Whatās h
If we want to split that in half, is 4.5mm on a ruler? I have 3/16ths on my imperial one.
FYI I love metric, I just think it is funny how āimperial badā gets parroted. It isnāt dumb, it actually makes a lot a sense for a lot of situations. That doesnāt mean anyone has to use it, but the fact that we do doesnāt make us idiots.
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5.56mmā¦
need I say more?
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Never said anything about that. Speak for yourselfā¦
I love mils for through hole stuff, mm for SMD stuff, and use whatever is easiest depending on the standards of what Iām working on.
Still, I love metric even if the km is a worthless nonsense unit that started off with a huge mistake.
Iām an idiot.
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Then what am I!? Frick!
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imperial / standard is just antequated thinking from a time when precision tools were limited and calculation were done by hand.
Iām not trying to convert you or anybody else, you do you, Infact keep doing it because it is entertaing for the remaining 96% of the worlds population
Apologies 24/25ths
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I want to know what the point is of making fun of Americans for using a system that actually works fine, because all it does is reinforce a stereotype and entrench peopleās positions.
We could be having a laugh about all sorts of stuff, but you have a need to āotherā a specific population because you believe that divisors of ten make so much more sense than divisors of twelve, which has no basis in anything besides the number of fingers that we have.
I really hope you take a minute to reflect on exactly what you are trying to accomplish here.
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Itās just jokes. I donāt think anybody here is really all that worked up about measurement systems. The āanything but metricā is a long running joke here on the forum
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Well, as an American, Iām having a laugh with my metric friends, who know I find it funny too.
Ever get together with a group of friends and everyone gets picked on, with a genuinely friendly ribbing?
Thatās what Iām doing.
Besides, they canāt help it, and I love my poor metrickey friends just the same.
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Considering that Iām sort of the product of two American schools, you can blame them Americans for both my understanding of metric and my hatred of fractionsā¦
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you mean you hope we take six decaseconds to reflect? 
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Maybe I am being overly sensitive, or was just having a bad day. But ājust jokingā when it targets someone or a group of people because of an aspect that makes them different from a group has a definition. Maybe it applies here maybe it doesnāt; all I know is that the topic is just asking for this type of conflict. There are all kinds of aspects of culture that can be targeted once it is agreed that is a valid thing to target for jokes.
Itās not my forum and Iām not going to make any more of a thing out of it.
itās everybodyās forum, your opinion is as valid as anybody else.
FYI
You can also mute the chat
Scroll to the bottom of the chat you want to mute
Also
You can mute individuals,
I can guarantee I will offend you you will be offended by me, so hereās how to mute me
No harm no foul, mute to your hearts contentā¦
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I am not offended by anyone. I was voicing a concern. I hope you understand the difference.
The only thing about this forum I find offensive is the use of Discourse as the platform.
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Haha really? Iāve found it to be quite the useful platform - open source and definitely capable. What others might one suggest?
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Lack of pagination, inability to select text from or save a whole thread, broken scrolling, broken search, overengineered, gamification. It was designed for engagement, not usability.
But mainly I just canāt stand the way it does infinite scrolling. All other things are secondary.
Fun read: (edit: the user codinghorror is Jeff Atwood, the creator of discourse)
Anything else.
Edit: I am highly opinionated about software, in case it wasnāt obvious.
Edit 2: I apologize for being a dick.
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Discourse has a built-in print function
While on the thread, simply press Ctrl + P in Windows or Mac equivalent
Discourse will automatically try to load all posts and format them into a printer-friendly layout. You can then select āSave as PDFā
I think there might be another way too
I havenāt seen that, do you have an Example or screenshot
My experience has been quite the opposite
Example?
You mean the retorts? Badges?
Personally I find it both
Untill you get to the bottom of the thread, and the average number of posts per thread would be fewer than 10.
They thread, the we are in is the obvious huge exception to the rule
Everybodyās experience is different
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oh it was obvious thatās ok though. Iād rather have people with in-depth opinions, even if I donāt agree with the entirety of them.
hahah Iāve used othersā¦ vBulletin, phpBB, etc.. and I simply like Discourse from an easy to deploy, easy to admin, decent features, good plugin framework, good plugin availability, open source, free standpoint.
Itās a chill vibe here.. no apology needed.. weāre all just having a bit of fun
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This is an admin choice, not a default. I chose it because āitās a bit of funā is all
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ā this might help you a little bit
Step 1: Start the āNew User Tutorialā
āThere are two ways to kick this off:
āThe Automatic Way: When you first join, check your Inbox (click your profile icon in the top right, then the envelope icon). You should have a message from discobot titled āGreetings!ā
āThe Manual Way: If you deleted the message or it didnāt arrive, you can start it by sending a private message to the bot.
āClick your Profile Icon \to Envelope Icon \to New Message.
āIn the āAdd Userā box, type @discobot.
āIn the body of the message, type: @discobot start tutorial
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Whenever I try to scroll back for long enough on mobile I invariably end up scroll-refreshing the browser page rather than scrolling through content
Although, thatās just me being impatient and trying to go fast 
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I have seen that too, I assumed it was a caching limitation rather than a break. It will freeze refresh and then carry on. I guess you could call that broken, I would call it a feature 
I actually donāt think that is broken, If thatās what youāre referring to.
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Nah, I just thought it was funny
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How and when on earth did I make it to the top of that leaderboard thing!?
Ah, itās just for todayā¦ That makes more sense but I had a long day and didnāt have as much time to be online.
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Having to go through a tutorial in order to use a web site is my definition of āthis product sucksā.
Iāve used several forum platforms over the years, and the only two that I can tolerate long term are phpBB and Discourse.
Discourse is pretty nice IMHO. Although specific forums will be configured differently, etcā¦
The tutorial isnāt particularly groundbreaking and if youāre tech-savvy, it should be a bit superfluous. But still, you get a nice badge and reading the manual is always a good idea.
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In this case, the problems with discourse are well documented and the complaints are consistent. Yes, you can overcome them by acclimating yourself to the interface. No, I donāt think that is acceptable when the design decisions are not actually helpful to the user. Infinite scroll does nothing that users want, it is an sort of an ideological position held by the creator based on the fact that infinite scrolling increases engagement according to their data. Which I find stupid, because I donāt want to be more engaged, I want to get what I want from the thing I am using, which is not having it suck my attention from me, but providing a result as a tool I use. If you read the linked discussion you can see this is all mentioned and not disputed by the creators of the platform.
How do you feel knowing you have been manipulated to go against your own intuitive sense in order to get a badge 
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I hate the leaderboard. It triggers my OCD and I have to check it everyday! Lol
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Some of you know my past, and my understanding of manipulationā¦ That was the explosive container that broke the camelās back so Iām following the AIās advice.
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Only of your barrel isnāt rated for 5.56.
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Iām trying to nominate a post for Best of 25, but too many gemstones to choose from
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How 'bout this one?
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You can nominate as many as you like
Also, Nice to see you back
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TL;DR
I really enjoyed the longer ones
I really enjoyed the depth of the longer storytelling and the humor in your previous videos. It is a shame that ShitTok has influenced attention spans to the point where formats must be shortened.
Iāll miss the old style, but I wish you the best of luck with the new videos.
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Same. But you all know how much I hate youtube shorts and Iām not going to let shittock anywhere near my attention span.
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āEvolve into an AI browserāā¦
Or you could.. Just be a good browserā¦
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I donāt think thereās any overt manipulation going on here I think itās literally the fact that most interfaces are now phones which are conducive to scrolling versus clicking and tapping. If you compare pagination with scroll on a mobile device, Iām going to get pretty fucking tired of tapping next next to see more stuff.. scrolling is intuitive and the end result is more engagement. This thread alone would not survive the way it has with pagination. I can quickly scroll past stuff I want to skim over and slow down or pause to read things I want to read.. having to click something to see the next tranche of posts would deter me from bothering.
There are people on the hacker news thread you linked that say that the entire thread should be loaded all at once to avoid pagination or scroll issues, but thatās insane, especially if you consider the inclusion of images and media. That might work for something like hacker News where itās text only and you have over 12,000 posts in a single thread and itās still not that much content to have to push through the interweb pipes.. but when Iām paying the cost of bandwidth I sure as shit donāt want to pay for all those cdn hits for basically getting someone caught up on the last few posts of an insanely long thread. Donāt even think about mentioning thread management.. thereās no point in curtailing the number of posts per thread.. thatās basically tantamount to censorship in my opinion.
As for the ctrl-f find function, again people on The hacker news thread seems to indicate that this was not standard and having to learn how to use a double control-f to use the built-in browser find function is asinine, however this is actually standard and Iāve seen it used in many cases where a website specific search function is engaged with ctrl-f and if you want to use the browsers find function you just hit it again. It makes sense from a usability standpoint and allows websites to implement their own specific search features but not preclude the user from opting to use the browsers to find feature.
Ultimately I have come to appreciate Discourse and how it chooses to operate. Of course it might be nice if the user could choose pagination versus scroll.. Iām always in favor of offering choice.. but given the current climate and percentage of mobile devices versus desktops or laptops accessing forums like this one, infinite scroll makes sense IMO.
I agree that search could be better, but given the fact I can pop out to Google or even various AI engines at this point to perform search, I find Iām not often using the built-in search features anyway.
(Iāve also got my opinions haha)
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Ahh then ur about to shit your pants in the new year they will be released in full on youtube. and combining a few storyās with the news anchorman in-between stiching them togeather coherently. Aiming for 11 min episodes.
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like this one!
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touchƩ
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We humans donāt have the mental bandwidth that you haveā¦ Se why I want to upgrade?
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You are allowed to like the interface that you have acclimated to. But I would hope that you can understand that undermining established toolsets in order to force an ideological stance, which ignores those who actively use those tools, and which breaks the standards established by those tools, is a corruption. Browsers have worked a certain way for decades. We expect things, we have reasons to ā because they make sense.
You know what exists that would fix this? A mobile page, or a mobile app ā which is already forced on people. But to force desktop apps to function like they have a tiny touch screen and they are being used as a distraction instead of a tool, that is egregious. I want to be able to copy and paste threads into text editors so that I can edit them. I tried to do that with the local AI guide I wrote and found I had to write an entire script to query the discourse API page by page in order to download the guide I wrote, in an editable format, so that I could post it somewhere else. You know what happened when I had to deal with that? I stopped writing it.
Bustedā¦ lol
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You could have just used the print output;
forum.dangerousthings.com/t/local-ai-server-guide/25813/print
That gives you plain text, with pagination if the output gets exceedingly long.. just cancel the print dialog and there you have it.. easy copy / paste content.
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I just tried that with this thread and it gives me an error page. If I try it with the parent URL (5860) it takes me to a paginated display, and if I try to move to the end page by guessing a page number in the URL it times me out saying I am trying to access the page too often. So, how do I copy my text from this thread?
Hmm what error does it give? I was able to get the simplified version of both threads on my phone and desktop.
From that point I just select all.. copy.. done.
The first screenshot you are showing is a page from 2020. Where is this part of it? Can you find this post and copy everything up to where I started posting about the metric system?
this thread is extremely long.. >20k posts.. it actually paginates and the metric system content starts on page 21
https://forum.dangerousthings.com/t/the-anti-derailment-thread-hijacking-thread/5860/print?page=21
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Thanks for pointing out the fix. I think it is clear that even with workarounds, these constraints are specific design decisions which frustrate me, and I see no obvious reason why they exist but for the philosophy of the creator.
Hopefully my position makes sense in this light, and I donāt come off as someone who is relying entirely on emotion or on principled opposition.
I am definitely opinionated, but I like to think that those opinions hold some weight since they are not arbitrary nor trivial.
The beauty of software is that we can (sometimes) change it. Iām writing a little plugin called textify that will let you toggle how threads are output so they will
- be text only, no images or media.
- no pagination, just dump the entire thread.
- omit annoying things such as like counters, reacts, references, etc.
You should be able to just toggle this mode on in your user profile settings.
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Thereās a leaderboard?
And I got on it?
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Yep,
AND
You already moved up from 3rd to 2nd
No Admins allowed, as there would be no chance of catching this guy
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All thanks to my magnetic penis personality Iām sure!
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I skimmed over things as I have enough stress IRLā¦ Still is this forum stuff about being able to skim the website for data collection or AI training or something along those lines? About usability with JavaScript disabled?
Is that not a thing in the USofA?
NZ very similar to the UK, but ours is measured as 10grams of pure Alcohol, not sure why its not 10 millilitres like the UK doā¦
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I was sitting here thinking I can never show myself again for being such an unreasonable asshole and you go and do a thing like that? Now I have to figure out what to put in that gift basket I need to send you.
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Sounds like a post for the EDC thread
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Well, i did have an advantage, I switched the switch to turn the feature on
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Hmm.. Whats this rewind thingā¦ One moment
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Oh that was pretty nice actually.
I wonder how this is calculated. DMs? Likes?
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Yes, Iām a self aware cyborgā¦
And Iām very active on DThub!
Iāll admit that Amal is indeed a great friend! Even if heās that friend who constantly gets under your skinā¦
This is nice:
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So that character has the opposite morality of Amalā¦
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It was a metaphor for Micron and Samsung right now. The setting does reflect DT though, so I understand the comparison.
Reverse HOW THE F*CK ARE YA postā¦
Been chatting privately with a few people on the forum lately and peppering a few public appearances. Iāve missed being on here regularly, yāall are a good bunch. Just been really busy and stressed lately and checking the forums regularly fell a bit on my priority list. (Thatās not to say that you guys arenāt important to me. )
How is everyone? What have I missed? Where do I jump back in? 
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In the U.S. A single serving, or a standard serving .6 oz / 14 grams. I think it used to be 1/2 oz, but got metrified at some point.
As far as I know, (Iām not a drinker), the only time it gets used is in how many drinks / servings of alchohol per hour = D.U.I. So X beers, and Y shots = Z servings + 
= 
+ 
= Go straight to Jail. Do not pass Go, Do not collect 200 Dollars.
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haha shit.. I didnāt know this.. and I think itās liable to trigger another kind of āAnything but metricā debate.. but apparently;
In the U.S., instead of āunits,ā they use
āStandard Drinks,ā defined as 0.6 fluid ounces (or 14 grams) of pure alcohol, which equals a 12oz 5% beer, a 5oz 12% wine, or a 1.5oz 80-proof spirit shot, though actual servings vary, especially with higher ABV wines and liquors, making standard drinks a key tool for understanding actual intake.
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I have that same sit at least once a week Welcome to the club hahah
plugin almost done testing.. should be live soon. had to take a slightly different route though. more explanation soon.
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I did that too. Just havenāt figured out (or even looked that hard) at how to see someone elseās.
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ok.. so the plugin is called āTextifyā as in āI gotta textify!ā
Instead of setting a user profile preference which was actually kinda hard to deal with, now each topic has a āTextifyā button at the bottom;
You can click that to open a new page that renders the entire topic (all posts) as one long markdown stream. Use with caution.. extremely large topics like this one here will take a very long time to load.
Alternatively you can simply append ā/textā to the end of a topic URL to achieve the same thing.
bugs
I know the render is not perfect.. there are some bugs.. particularly with bold / alt text formatting, usernames, html anchors, etc.. but the main body content of each post should be clean and easy to copy / paste or whatever. Future updates coming.. maybe
nm i squashed em. if you notice any bugs let me know.
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Thereās no easy link on user profiles and such, so you can either share it manually, or edit the URL if you know that a rewind is public:
Hereās mine for example:
And hereās Amalās:
Edit:
I found the link on the profile page:
That link is pretty hidden but itās on every profile. Of course if the user has it set to private, youāll get an error.
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In a medium that is based on long form text, a contributor should be able to access their contributions easily, preferably in the original format and with the responses as well. This is pretty self-evident I think, because they may want to alter them and use them somewhere else, or send them with the responses to another party to get feedback, or any number of legitimate purposes.
The Discourse UI makes this difficult to do because of the way the interface is designed. You can go to a specific comment of yours, but if you try to select and scroll down the page, if wonāt let you copy it. That was the specific use that I was using as an example for why this is a bad design.
Technically it is possible. I was able to copy several āpagesā of comments on this thread with CTRL-C by starting the selection and then using my scroll wheel on my desktop mouse to scroll many many posts down from where I started the selection and successfully select and copy them.. but yes the normal UI interaction stops selection after a short amount of content.
Does the Textify option suit your needs in this regard?
Ow, my eyes!
gp > ā preferences > šµ Interface > Dark, Dark, Dark, Dark!
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Same. Not a huge fan of Discourse either, but at least itās more usable than a lot of the web these days, even if you do have to learn a new set of hotkeys specific to the site. And I have to use an entirely different web browser just to be able to run it, Discord, and my bank. But at least itās not as bad as Discord. Or Reddit.
Nifty! Occasionally, when Iāve wanted similar functionality, I put the URL into my preferred browser where the JavaScript fails to execute and results in a similar but probably less perfect effect. This is a much cleaner solution.
Now anyone know how do I tell these dancing little colour dots on my profile pic, āShush, shush, shushhhhhh, simmer down now little colour dots; go to sleep nowā ?
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Honestly I havenāt tried it yet. It seems like a good band-aid and definitely appropriate for this context.
There is really no reason to (nor do I expect) change from discourse at this point. I was expecting to lay foundation for a redetermination at a point later in time which was appropriate (move to new server, etc), and wanted to make an impression that would stick sufficiently to make a counterpoint to staying with the status quo.
The plug-in really does cement your service oriented nature and desire to fix things for people, and for that I applaud you.
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I think they are only there until you actually open it the first time.
You may be able to go to your profile and go through the back door so to speak
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Came across this nonsense sounding thing:
Make sure to read and accept the almond EULA and have a valid product key before consuming almonds.
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Anyone have recommendations for tools to send ālargeā files privately? Preferably something where the receiver doesnāt need any particular platform or software?
Used to use e-mail, but size constraints and privacy concerns are getting bad. (Well, I need to switch to a better provider anyway. Or host my own server and solve both these problems at once, but in the mean timeā¦)
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Encrypted thumbdrive?
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Define ālargeā
you can do up to 10GB
End-to-end encrypted.
Files are automatically deleted after a set time or number of downloads.
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Or private VPN and FTP server
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What an interesting way of assembling words they have.
DARPA
To create and prevent technological surprise for our national security.
But, okay, light to direct the way DNA/RNA synthesises within cells. Makes sense. Light can be used as a kind of microscopic tweezers. (Where did I read that? Was it something you posted?)
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This just caused me to remember the dream I had last night. It had nothing to do with implants though. It had to do with a short man wearing a shopping bag for trousers which he said his mother made for him. There was a red lens filter on everything.
My bet is they are expanding work loosely based on optogenetics technology.
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crazy
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Merry Christmas to everyone.
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When you have to go buy food for those humans that you invited over:
In any case, Iād like to wish you all a merry Christmas!
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huh
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PiSugar for rpizero2 aquired. Will see if it can handle the pm3
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Interested to see this project
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Iāll have to spend some time making a case in tinkercad, because the itty bitty little otg usb hub I used isnāt as common as the other parts are.
The ideal formfactor is a small brick of plastic with some holes on the side..
Which pisugar?
Great question, Iāll have to double check when I get home. It has the same formfactor as the pi-zero and has USB-C though.
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Wanna see my pi pico?
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Caveman xSeries
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Funny thing about that.
About two weeks ago I had a chip / fragment of one of my wisdom teeth surface. I had three distinct pieces come out over the course of a week, then it healed up like nothing.
The last couple of days itās felt like another one is coming from the same spot.
The funny part is that my wisdom teeth were pulled twenty years ago. Twenty. Years.
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Maybe some x-rays are in order to figure out what happened and how much wisdom is still thereā¦
Glad I had the space to keep all of my wisdomā¦
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Apparently, my wisdom cannot be contained.
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PiSugar3
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Was just given a well preserved ps4. Any game suggestions?
Im normally a Fallout / single player / strategy game kinda guy.
Pi Zero2w
Pisugar3
OTG USB Hub
Case I found on printables
Screws from the scrap box
32gb microSD
OS: Headless Kali (for now / testing at least)
On boot, device connects to a particular SSID (which could be my phone or laptopās hotspot).
At that point, I SSH into it.
Tests show it can handle a 3 core stress test while running the pm3 client and device, while also having two wifi cards plugged in. Did some basic lf hid watch type commands to make sure things were actually working. All went well.
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The goal is basically to just have some tools in my bag of tricks (ie pm3, monitor mode wifi card, etc) more independent of my laptop, though I am seeing the potential benefits of not having the pm3 tied (with a cable) to my laptop/desktop.
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the Uncharted series for sure
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I always wanted to play Red Dead.
I can also recommend Titanfall 2, the single player campaign is great! And thereās a multiplayer mode if you change your mind.
However, itās pretty different from the Fallout RPG formula.
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That aint necessarily bad.
I second this.
This is my alltime favorite game. Great story, youāll find yourself falling in love with a robot. The mechanics are really nice, and they just get insane when used in a multiplayer environment.
The multiplayer used to be competitive in a healthy way, until servers were cut down. Been a couple years since Iāve tried playing, but I am betting they are less overwhelmed now that the playerbase has faded a bit. I would love to jump back in.
This is a game where fps does actually matter, heads up. You can move very quickly.
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TIL that itās possible to burn certain RFID readers by placing them on a Qi chargerā¦
So I now have a dead version of a cheap chinese readerā¦ That Iāll replace because the range is greatā¦
Is there an easy way to dissolve the black epoxy potting compound? I kinda want to analyze what happened.
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Already have plans for a Donatello tat (eventually)
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Try Acetone. (Patience required)
With my PiSugar2 I noticed that if the proxmark is plugged into the pi, the charge is overtaken by the load. Is the 3 any better?
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Happy new time interval! 
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I shall look into it later.
This will probably lead to some nefarious ideas, but Iām risking it anyways.
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Just watched this KIISU video
Quite interesting
It was posted 2 days ago
@Hamspiced is this your handywork?
He clones a card in the video and looks like it worked well.
I imagine it would be a great alternative for people that dont have access to a Flipper through import restrictions, financial, or lack of availability and potential scams
@Hamspiced and @Not (I know you were looking at getting one)
Whatās your opinion on the kiisu?
Worth it? i.e., does it work well with implants?
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KIISU continued
The cheapest by a significant amount was Rainwalker in Europe
Rabbit Labs in USA is 60% more
Hacktronix in India was 80% more
Those in the USA, Rabbit labs may still be your best option after postage,Taxes/tarrifs, you might need to do your own research there.
Here are the links
EUROPE
USA
INDIA
(Interstingly, even though I am in Oceania and not on VPN I was directed to Rainwalker in Europe even though both USA and India are closer)
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I have no opinion at this moment, since I lack a unit. However, I do question the (iirc) 2032 that powers it. Would battery life be enough? I wouldnāt want to charge it often if I were to use something like that.
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Indeed, but a Lithium rechargeable
can also be powered by USB
I THINK you can add on a battery
Also, I dont see why you couldnāt remove the 2032 caddy and solder on a battery onto the PCB.
I inferred that there was charging via the USB.
Iām not sure what the endurance of the 2032 is but considering what I expect the average session to be, i would ASSUME it would be good for at least a couple of sessions, but 
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Perfect for calibrating your bullshit detector!
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my god..
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canāt even imagine what would the ānew infrastructureā could be, theoretically 
Dear Santaā¦ Although I want a different paint job.
Iām sure that you guys know exactly what I wantā¦
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Auction Slut Spotlight of the Week !!!
Yep, itās a fully equipped surveillance van in nondescript gray. Practically a time capsule straight outta the 90ās!!!
Are you a Stalker? Having Marital Problems? Big fan of old buddy cop movies? Maybe you just have āissuesā with your HOA president. Well hereās the ride for you!
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Need a ride for the villain in your cinematic masterpiece? How about a super cherry 83 Cadillac 2-door?
https://www.govdeals.com/en/asset/151/22783
Iām getting vibes of watching movies on a home-sick-from-school-day.
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Or you could buy a whole elementary school in Ohio!
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āLand Use Proposal Requiredā
Governments ruin all the fun, goddammit!
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Oh yes, yes. I love it when a 90ās plan comes together.
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how close can a flex be from an xG3?
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I love that, and need a few of those for my labā¦
I have no information to suggest this is accurate
But
I sense a Hammy project might be developed from thisā¦
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But
So..maybe with a different LED
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This is how easy it will be for AI to maliciously murder most of us.
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It doesnāt even have to be maliciousā¦ But offloading epistemology and reason into something else is dangerous. Throughout history, it has always been dogma, cliches, and ideologyā¦
I donāt subscribe to the āAI will become superintelligent, then all powerful, and turn against humanityā narrativeā¦
However, there have been many dictators throughout history who have murdered millions. Many even disagreed with each other on how to create the perfect societyā¦ But one characteristic of them all is that they were not geniuses. The risk of evil emerging doesnāt require AI.
Also, the reasons why ordinary people accept things that are unacceptable can also be understood by studying history, psychology, the way schooling works, and several cultural aspects.
One common theme in evil dictatorships is the lack of reason, along with the lack of an epistemology thatās based on observing reality.
Ok, ChatGPT does fit into the last two statementsā¦ Starting with the inability of a language model to observe realityā¦
But I donāt see AI as a risk, I see the real risk in human stupidity and the lackluster schooling of today. The next horror of history might not even involve AIā¦
true. I once blindly followed a GPS route while visiting Pennsylvania to a highway onramp, at night, at 40mph, around a tight 275 degree turn. Right at the end of the ramp the headlights swung around to reveal a āroad closedā sign and about 30 feet of rough dirt and a deep ditch between the end of the onramp and the highway. No flashing lights, no nothing.. just a very old and dirty (not very reflective) āroad closedā blockade across the entire end of the onramp. Apparently the locals were all too familiar with this closure and took another route, but the GPS confidently guided me right to it. The screeching of tires was only just slightly loud enough to drown out my cursing.
But it could be.. specifically with training backdoors that enable specifically malicious behavior when specific trigger conditions are processed by the model.
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I also have a cheap and cheerful dual frequency (independently selectable) that might be good for testingā¦
@tac0s ?
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Shiny! I think we are moving away from UV and leaning into high powered flashlights.
Haha, yepā¦Iām an idiot
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Yeah I get better results with my olight than I do the black light pens. Also the UV led that would work best damages the skin the most. I wouldnāt recommend.
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The overly human movements in the first part upset me, even though I know an easy way to train them these days is to have them mimic humans. Then the last part made it all better. I think thatās my favourite android Iāve seen built so far.
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I ended up trying to scratch my back on that spot that I canāt reachā¦
Having that level of mobility would be so useful, even if my goals prevent getting random itches.
Imagine being able to plug in modules on your back by turning around your head and having the range of motion to reach with your arms? Or what about a backpack that attaches directly into you and has a hinge on the bottom so that it opens in a way that makes it easy to access stuff? Add a folding workbench that replaces the usual chestplate and you got a very useful setupā¦
Yes, I know that this also means being stiff and loosing some range of motion. But at least Iām good with the tradeoffs.
I donāt find them upsetting, but Iād rather stay a bit away from overly human. In part because of the uncanny valley.
Lesson learned from a failed flex removal:
Do not try to get at it through a large scared area, its tough as hell and much (much) deeper than it appears ā¦
Also, there is a surprising amount of tiny nerves running in all kinds of random direction.
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Wait, a bunch of nerves grow into scar tissue as it forms?
No not generally. Scar tissue is typically devoid of nerves however when you do an installation it basically severe nerves going up into the skin and they try to grow around scar tissue to reconnect but itās generally chaos. Scar tissue also isnāt just a nice clean layer of tissue it is massively chaotic because the priority it closing the wound and shoring up the structure.. nice orderly growth is not how scar tissue forms, generally speaking.
This is why putting a scaffold material in place helps tissues regrow without all that chaotic non-pattern lumpy mess. Putting fish skin or potato skins on burn wounds helps grow skin back that looks and feels way better because it grows into the scaffold and follows the pattern instead of just being a lumpy scarred mess.
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So, to maximise the number of nerve endings available near a sensing magnet, stuff some fish skin in there with the implant? Got it.
[ Disclaimer to passing interwebers: No donāt. ]
But in seriousness, is there some kind of safe scaffolding we could put in with a sensing magnet to get more nerve endings to grow around it?
Come to think of it, that coating thatās on some implantsā¦ makes it harder to remove but isnāt that a similar idea? Or would it be better to have the magnet move freely? We want it to move, but we want it to move the nerve endings with it, so of the flesh grows in all structurally likeā¦ ideally soft jelly flesh with lots of nerves, maybe? Nervous jelly. Tremble. I digress. Anyway, thoughts?
The nerves will do their own thing .. scaffolding is more for basic collagen patterning so tissues can fill in. Nerves are like pipes that want to run through your tissue.. they donāt need a scaffold or care about one.. they arenāt structural. Itās more like plumbing or electric wiring in a building than walls and floors etc.
There are drugs called nerve growth factors that can help induce nerve growth but itās not been applied in this kind of application before
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Iām pretty sure that you want the collagen fibers to form the messy scar tissue around an implant in order to hold it in place. I suspect that if they end up being too organized, you could end up with a floating implant that shifts around?
Would that be worth exploring?
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Naa orderly scar tissue would work just as well.. and ultimately thatās pretty much what forms around the implant. That process of encapsulation is more orderly because the body is deciding to sequester this odd object that seems fine (no immune response). The chaos is related to speed / urgency and lack of surrounding structure. Open skin is a very high priority and missing / open skin lacks any underlying structural pattern.
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Let the conspiracy theories fly! Iām in Colorado filming a segment about the COVID-19 microchip conspiracy theory with Andrew Bustamante for an as of now unnamed Discovery Channel show.
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Oh boy, send us a heads up when this is going to air!
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I just found this, i didnāt realise Neil Harbisson was still actively enganging with the community.
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Cool video of blood flowing through eye capillaries.
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Whatās the rod like thing in there? Was this video taken during a surgery? Is that an implant?
Also, that is cool AF!
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I think itās a surgery of some kind. Iām not sure I found the vid in reddit with no context.
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WTF!? The most concerning part is that Iāve met people who would fall for thatā¦
Hopefully thatās DnD related and not something that belongs in a certain threadā¦
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Let him through amal, I want the spell.
Maybe he can enchant an xGlow
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Glowy winky in the middle agesā¦ Perfect for getting that asshole who dethroned your ancestors burned at the stake!
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For those of you in the midwest right now:
If youāve got any batteries to top off, Iād suggest doing so now. The storm is meant to get worse from my understanding.
Fill your gas tanks too.
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Iām from Kansas, so used to nasty weather, and living in Arkansas, which is much warmer and sheltered by forests, hills, and āmountainsā.
Long story short, people here are loosing their shit in totally unpredictable ways. Reminds me of the covid toiletpaper panic buys.
Donāt get me wrong, a little prep never hurts anything, even in good times. Best to have canned veggies (mmm, soup), a source of non electric heat, good company, and a few books and / or board games.
For pro level, get a big jug of powdered hot chocalate. I keep one on hand every winter. Even if I donāt get a snowmageddon, at least I can mellow out on an introvert recharging weekend with a big 'ol steaming cup of chocalate.
Anywho, be safe, donāt panic, good vibes.
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People arenāt acting too unusual hereā¦ Well.. People are always unusual here due to rampant illegal drug use, but.. Yāknow..
Totally agreed. Hence filling the gas tank and batteries (lithium I try not to store above 70% for health purposes) before the brunt of things. Gas because people will later rush to fill generators last minute raising prices, and it will get used next week anyways. Batteries can be dropped back to storage levels by charging phones and laptops for a day or two. (Also snakes canāt be in low temps for long so it is technically a life-or-death for the little noodle man).
Everyone should have enough nonperishables to be fine for a week without leaving the house, which honestly isnāt that much based on a 1500 calorie minimal intake.
I am more of a coffee guy myself. Sure, everything should be had in moderation, and I moderate myself to one crippling addiction: Coffee.
Batteries full, tummy full, books on shelf, we are chilling.
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Re: snakes, if you donāt have too many, putting them in smaller containers under your blankets/coat is pretty effective in an emergency.
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Please keep this handsome gentleman safe:
I find it amazing that reptiles donāt need to eat as much as mammals, but the lack of thermal regulation has a bunch of drawbacksā¦
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Considering he is in his ācold hideā (unheated portion of tank), I would say he considers himself comfy.
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What the fucken fuck is this shit?
Is this a legit thing?
Just pay you fucken employeeās fairlyā¦
Fucken bullshit tipping culture
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In the US, restaurants have to match minimum wage if the tips arenāt enough. Although the reason to push towards low salaries and high tips might be related to taxes.
Tipping is part of American culture; restaurant employees expect to be paid little by the restaurant but get a better wage in tips. And people there are used to paying 20% tips, and the fact that prices donāt include sales tax.
I agree! But itās more of thing about not including all the fees in the price tag. If you ever visit, youāll have to do some mental math to account for tips and taxes.
Of course, I personally prefer to have everything included in the price thatās advertised.
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I haveā¦
Agreed.
Tipping is a disgusting practice, and very few countries actually encourage it.
here are some that do, see if you can workout what they have in common
Canada, Mexico and the Caribbeanā¦
Adjust your prices and Pay your fucken staff properly.
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The problem is that people will think that itās too expensive, and tip anywaysā¦ Changing cultural expectations is hard.
Being next to the US? But many Latin American countries also tip, but only 10%. Colombia will pressure you to tip by asking if you want the tip included in your billā¦
Iād normally think that taxes can encourage tipping, but I donāt know what you have in mind.
Maybe Iām being too Austrian when it comes to economics, but I donāt see it as a way to underpay the staff, I see it as method to make prices seem lower or reduce taxes. But seeing the full price upfront is preferable to tipping IMHO.
Still, good luck trying to get an American not to tip when visiting another countryā¦
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I feel as though tipping isnāt bad but has gotten out of control.
For example, if I go and buy a coffee at a coffee shop for me and my SO, and it comes back reasonably quickly, done within reasonable quality margins, and my experience was enjoyable, I may choose to drop whatever change comes back in the jar. Maybe an extra $1 bill or two if I feel particularly satisfied with the interaction. For $9-12 worth of coffee and drinks, $1 on average for a tip given a positive experience is fine. It could even encourage speed.
However, the expectation of any tip is entirely unwarranted. If I have a $5 bill in my pocket, I should be able to walk into the coffee shop and get that $4 small mocha latte for $4 plus any applicable tax (thatās a rant for another day), and walk back out without even thinking about the interaction further.
A tip should be just that: A tiny bit extra on top for particularly good service. However it should not be assumed that any worker will get any substantial amount of money from any one interaction. Letās say $90 base pay for a dayās work, all tips combined, a good worker might get $110.
It should be extra, not expected, and almost never substantial. Even basing it on the price of what you buy is messed up.
This isnāt to say tipping is great, but I enjoy the option. Let me repeat, I enjoy the option.
Precisely, though I donāt mind an unlabeled jar sitting near the register. Heck, it keeps coins from rattling in my pocket.
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I know Im not going to change anybodies mind, Americans wonāt change to a logical metric system, there is no way they will change an emotionally based mentality when you are being guilted into paying.
I get it, its the culture and now an expectation, I dont agree with it, but āwhen in Romeā¦ā
I tipped when I was there, Iām not about short changing a worker that relys on tips to survive.
My point is, they shouldnt have to.
For me, Itās a reason to not want to visit, I just cant be bothered with that bullshit, just like in a shop, when the price isnt the priceā¦because, hey, you didnt include the tax becauseā¦surprise mutha fucker, this tax changes from state to state and city to city.
You can stick that system up your arse.
Just put the actual price on it.
Donāt make us guess, its not a game show this isnāt āThe price is right!ā
I stayed in Boston, my hotel had about 4 or 5 different Taxes added onto the total
Something like
State room occupancy Tax
City Occupancy Tax
Convetion centre Tax
Tourist Tax
Destination Tax
They werenāt mentioned on the website when I booked it, Just like resturants etc. its just to get you in the door.
Awesome city, loved it, but I wonāt be back
In NZ, we have gst (government service tax) it is set at 15%
Under the Fair Trading Act, businesses must be clear and accurate about pricing.
If you see a price it, that will be the price, if it is excl gst which is rare, it must state that it is excl. gst
only really seen in trade or wholesale.
Iām not saying itās the best system, I just personally prefer it over the USA model.
Hopefully they dont in Japan
its actually seen as an insult
it is viewed as a violation of the social contract between the service provider and the guest.
They even have a term for it which is something like wholehearted hospitalityā¦but in japanese
Excellent service is a standard obligation, not a performance to be incentivized by extra money.
Itās actually a really interesting topic, but i wont go into here.
āItās a fascinating cultural difference, but Iāll leave it at that.
I love Japan; America, you do you.
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2 years ago our grocery store burned down (been living off dollar store and gas station food), when the new place opened, a rumor went around that they would be paying 17.00/hr. A few of the new hires quit on their first day because they found out that wasnāt what their pay would be.
They never asked, they just heard a range of potential salaries, and picked the top one.
You see the same behavior in haggling (craigslist, marketplace, etc.) In order to sell you something for 10 dollars, I have to price it at 15. If I donāt overprice, then youāll try to work out how much you can haggle down, and then get stuck at 8, because I started at 10.
Thereās another too good to be true story about an ex-employee who posted extremely positive reviews with lavish salaries and perks on glassdoor to make it difficult to hire due to incoming expectations.
All this relates to the problem with tipping.
People expect tips. Then people expect big tips. Then they expect extravagant tips consistently, and for no reason.
Expectation Inflation? That could be a good name for it.
People talk about employer greed / underpay, and while I beleive thatās a very real thing, the expectation inflation also puts employers in a very real bind too.
TLDR: People suck.
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That is a great viewpoint, and I dont disagree with that.
Far more manageable
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If Iām getting something on my own, Iāll tip for good service. Also depends on the situation. If Iām sitting down to eat, Iāll tip a bit more because they have to wander around, clean up, get refills etc.
The dude at the counter that punched in 2 things for a To-Go order and only gave me 1 napkin and keeps forgetting my plastic fork? Handfull of whatever change was leftover.
Using my corporate card however, Iām a tipping fiend.
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While I generally despise tipping (social pressure), the times my service has been exceptional has been reflected extravagantly in a tip.
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Tipping sucks because hereās a short history;
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tipping used to happen AHEAD of service, as a bribe, in cash, handed directly to the staff member. The point was to get them to come back soon and often and take good care of the dining party. Usually tips were exclusively given by gangsters and the type, to be taken care of but also to be given a more private space.. to be sequestered but serviced well.. and to keep mouths shut about what they might hear in back room conversations.
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greedy fuck business owners got their panties in a bunch because āthe staff Iām paying well is making more money by working in my establishment, therefore I can pay them less and they still make the same!ā
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at some point someone.. not sure if it was businesses or staff or both, decided to change the arrangement so a tip was asked for after service is rendered, like was common for hotel bell hops.. and pushed for it to kind of expected.. like hotel bell hops.. and at some point it was tied to a % of meal cost so itās less tied to actual effort and more tied to simple maths and social expectation. Order slips got ātip your waitressā printed on them. Little signs went up at the cash registers. The social pressure campaign started in earnest.
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point of sale systems caught on and began implementing this ad nauseum.
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everyone hates tipping.
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That and the hidden fees culture are the parts that suck the most IMHO.
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Do they really only have to pay minimum wage after tips? Thatās dumb. Tips should be gifts freely given on top of the expected pay, because they are there to show gratitude on top of the service that their wages already should have paid for. (And as gifts, should be tax free.)
I mainly tip at owner run businesses, so theyāre the oneās paying themselves whatever they can make anyway.
Conditional tipping sucks. Then its not a gift, just a bribe, and corrupt businesses have a front. Itās made a mess of my town last few years.
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We no longer have this problem. Our sharks can now fly and survive for 12 hours out of the water. They eat our giant spiders, but only the poisonous ones (which as you know is all of them).
We are truly fucked the day the drop bears organise though.
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Seems like a neat idea
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Pro-sess.. Canadian.
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Donāt Americans tip 20% already!?
The land of the (hidden) fee!
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Hey buddy, I just changed your post from Projects to this show off thread, just because itās not really a project as such, just enrolling.
However
Throw this one in the project section when youāre done.
Thanks for sharing
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Ok sounds good
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Well, fsckā¦
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What safe?
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I think it is a Hornady Rapid compact.
I tried to grab a link, but it appeared to be broken.
It might be a regional thing, and my VPN was offā¦
Here are some links, that may or may not work
https://www.hornadysecurity.com/rapid-safes/rapid-safe-ready-vault-wifi?hl=en-GB#!/
My assumption is they are EM operated locks like other Hornady products qe have seen, so the OP enrolled the LF side of the NEXT2
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Yes rapid compact.
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Itās a fire in a madhouseā¦
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Curious how much our retail kits have changed over the years?
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Why is this antique still a thing? There are better op-amps, donāt use the one from that college textbook that hasnāt been updated properly in decadesā¦
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I need to know the story behind that DT employee, and if theyāre writing a book on stoicism?
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I love going to my browser and typing āFā to get to the DT forums
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You must be very organised and methodical with your browser; on a PC I always have the Forum tab open (and about 40 other Tabs ) , but 90% of the time, I use my phone, and open via the āAppā
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I donāt keep tabs open. If itās worth saving I should bookmark it and if itās not it gets sent to the shadow realm
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I donāt trust Walmart management to implement any means of ensuring it stays āfresh.ā
They canāt even match up the deli menu the customer sees with the deli menu their employees have been informed of with the deli menu in their cash register. And then they assign a single deli employee to run the entire deli, including the kitchen behind it, behind a solid wall, and expect them to somehow magically know when a customer is waiting at the counter. They used to sell food I wanted but nobody could buy it so it would all go stale, so their solution was to stop selling it. Meanwhile, they assign ten employees to stand around at the self checkout to direct traffic when the reason traffic isnāt flowing is because they crammed the checkout machines into a narrow isle, stuck the entrance in the middle of it so customers have to swim upstream and back, and then crammed it full of ten employees who stand around wasting space directing traffic. When that doesnāt work, they trash thousands of dollars of the best self checkout machinery to replace them with awful machines, as though the problem were the machines and not their baffling way of arranging them. Every customer and employee knows how to manage Walmart better than Walmart management.
I foresee an outbreak of food poisoning in Florida.
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Ever since the first post, my Spidey senses have been tingling, I have had heavy AI vibes from
@ Aven
The SINGLE post that felt ānormalā was this one
But no photo or video to accompany it
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Anybody else?
- CYBERDYNE āEMPLOYEEā
- Newcomer using AI to answer questions
- Pilgrims Spidey sense needs recalibration
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voters
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feels like a clawedbot gone off the moltbook reservation
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Yeah, I see another round in..
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Iām seeing 6 new posts blandly restating the obvious. Might be time to neuter it.
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yeah fuck this guy. respectfully.
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respectfully
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This little light of mine, is not gonna shine no more ā¦
The LED inside my xSIID gave up this morning 
The chip still works, so no need to take it out, but i lost my blinky (i know, im as ashamed as you to only have 1 
)
Could my usb wedge have killed it? (its being more and more erratic lately)
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Never thought Iād see an AI turn against another AIā¦
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Have you not watched terminator 2
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This is how I imagine the tension between Pilgrim and the other bots:
Hopefully I wonāt get into trouble in the future once I finally become a botā¦
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Well, a thread that probably belongs in the looney thread popped up and it reminded me of this:
NGL, the digitigrade stilts kinda look like something fun to try.
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Switching threads now to save our local AI some work.
For what it is worth, I understand the decision and it probably wonāt be a deal breaker for me. I can use my NExT for NDEF, and eventually I want a resin/x desfire3 8k implant of some kind, so Iāll have even more room there.
I guess my main perspective boils down to āI enjoy options and controlā. This does clash with the plug nā play goals of VK (at least in this particular instance), and ultimately thatās okay. I do appreciate that this general perspective was taken into account.
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Ha, I actually missed Amals reply, had I seen it, I wouldnāt have bothered putting in my two cents
Thanks for highlighting (and Not derailing)
I totally get your point
and also (Amals) Vivokeys
Just to reiterate my point
Look at the ApexFlex vs. FlexSecure rollout.
VivoKey released the ApexFlex locked down to Fidesmo. You buy it, install it, use Fidesmo for applets, and Apex Manager to run them. Itās a straight-forward path that even a newcomer can follow without getting lost.
Later, DangerousThings dropped the FlexSecure. It was basically an unlocked Apex, but it was strictly for the āadvanced user.ā It wouldāve been way too much for a beginner to wrap their head aroundā
at least until Tac0s built the Global Platform GUI and made it easily manageable.
We want more people with implants and bringing them to the mainstream; complication and questions like the FlexSecure comes with donāt sell products, Simple plug nā play devices like the VK ApexFlex and VK Thermo do
VivoKey is clearly building its own ecosystem here, and that isnāt a bad thing. When you buy a VivoKey product, you get a predictable, reliable experience.
Some people are Apple fanboys; I personally hate them for a lot of reasons. But you have to admit they handle their seamless ecosystem integration and premium product tier well.
VivoKey is hitting those same high notes, just without the corporate arrogance or the other negative traits that come with Apple.
THAT is what you are buying into.
I was going to join the BeUno beta, but opted out, however I have been following the progress, and from what I have seen, if you want an NFC implantable thermometer, in my opinion, the VK Thermo is your best option that is avaliable right now, my point is:
If you wait, there MIGHT be a DT released unlocked xThermo. Then again, there might notā¦
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So Iām seriously considering doing some merch. But Iām very picky and Iām having a hell of a time finding something and maybe you all may know the right terminology I should be searching for.
I want to make zipped hoodies but I specifically want ones that I had in the early 2000s. They were special because they had what I know as a stash pocket. Iām the armpit there was a hidden zippered pocket.
Spitfire, the skateboard wheel company had a ton of hoodies with this as well as other brands. Now I canāt find a single one. Any ideas what I should be looking for?
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Like you, Iāve heard them called āstash pocketā but also because its in the armpit, also a āpit pocketā
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I like to know that I have 5 fingers,
otherwiise I struggle to count to 10.
With shoes off, i can get to 20,
If naked, i can get to 20 Ā½
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My dutch buddy just programmed his NExT2 for the first time (at lest the HF side)! Put on one of Hammyās stickers too.
Now I want blinkā¦
I should redo my glow scarā¦
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Dude I feel that.. remember I posted a while back about doing a hoodie for dangerous things? I spent weeks and weeks trying to get a source for a decent base hoodie I could apply some dt flair to and holy shit itās just garbage soup out there.
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Hmm, Amal, have you thought about reaching out to LTT/LMG? Iām assuming you havenāt found a supplier.
A few reasons Iām suggesting this:
1-Their products are expensive but good quality
2-They might be willing to point you towards a particular supplier
3-Perhaps it would open an opportunity for them to showcase some DT/VK products in a video.. Potentially draw a little attention.
Its a long shot, but it may be worth a shout.
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Ooo good idea.. worth a shot!
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I think they have a shop that actually makes theirs vs using a base
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I just found out, theyāve made Hail Mary (book) into a movie. Comes out March 20th. Trailers look really good. Think Iām going all in on an early IMAX showing.
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I do not enjoy how they put my favorite rock in the trailer.
I feel like showing interesting rocks in a trailer like that is just.. Wrong
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I saw a thing by Weir, and I kinda gotta agree with it. Basically he said the story is about Grace/Rock. (Trying not to get too spoilery) Itās not about why or how or cool CGI, itās just that interaction. (Iām greatly paraphrasing and expanding.) As such, showing such things, is just the beginning.
To be fair too, Iām more worried that theyāll do it like The Martian and Iād hate to see it treated so.
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I hate the giant spoiler in the trailer. I wonāt watch the movie.
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Yeah iirc, you donāt find out about the special rocks in the book until roughly 1/3 of the way through it. I understand that it is the story, but I feel like showing the pretty rocks before knowing Graceās backstory is.. Not ideal. It takes away from a lot of nervousness that we might feel on graceās perspective that we otherwise would have if we didnāt know about the funny rocks in advance.
In other news, I am very excited to see the tile wall in the tunnel! Flashbacks could be done very poorly or very well, too.
Flashbacks will be key to story order / progression. Otherwise character perspective wonāt make sense. Especially as that is mostly concluded in the book pre rocks. If the movie follows the same basic pattern it could work.
Just donāt be like the martian.
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Think about this yāall.
Iām cooking salmon (fillets). Iāve always kinda wanted to. Butā¦ Iāve lived about as far from salwater as you can get all my life. I saw the Pacific, for about 5 days on vacation. Iāve seen the Gulf of Mexico once for a couple of hours. And now Iām having fresh salmon.
We, as varied of a people as we are, even poor such as I, live exalted lives compared to the kings and nobility of old.
Seriously, thereās nothing in this entire world I couldnāt have if I set my mind to it.
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Not to be that guy
BUT
They are born in fresh water, migrate to the ocean (salt water) to live most of their lives, and return to freshwater rivers to spawn.
but, some species can live entirely in freshwater
Your point is still valid though
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True!
Iāve seen a lot of people in the third world denounce progress and growth as if it was the worst thing everā¦ And it makes my blood boil as those idiots are infinitely better off thanks to civilization and all the good it brings with it.
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about Americans is their outlook on life. Where thereās a will, thereās a way after all.
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Yeah, butā¦
I was raised in Kansas. According to gemini,
Granted Iām living alot closer now, and thereās even (stocked) freshwater salmon in Kansas. But thatās all beside the point.
Can you imagine the look on Charlamagneās face if you gave him an ice cream cone? Catherine the Great with a can of cheese whiz?
Even thatās besides the point. There is no food served to current day kings / prime ministers / emperors / presidents, that I could not have tonight.
We live better than any humans in any time. Nobody has ever had it as good as we do, and itās not reserved for the select few. We actually end up making up stuff, to be artifically rare, so that we can have āstatusā items.
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That explains the interest in glowy augmentationsā¦
On an unrelated note, I love how this particular design looks:
The top one looks ugly but is much more stable. The bottom one looks slick but thatāll be one slick looking bot on its ass the second it gets into a tussle.
True, I prefer the bottom one.
Either one will require a decent amount of control theory. The top one will also end up tripping over without it.
Still, I like the slick design with two ātoesā. And itās probably wider and more stable than what Boston Dynamics is currently doing.
Edit: Iād like something like this:
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Why are we seeing sloppification of threads / replies? I mean, whatās the point of having an A.I. insert itself into a thread and generate replies?
Is someone trying to test for a Turing style pass / fail?
Are they hoping to get it good enough to go unnoticed so that they can slip in spam later?
Seriously, whatās the point of going to the trouble to set all that up besides pure maliciousness?
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It seems like youāre concerned about the increasing presence of AI-generated content in online discussions. The rise of āsloppificationā in threads likely stems from several factors.
First, AI can generate replies quickly, leading to a volume of content that might dilute the quality of discussions. The intention behind this can be varied: some may see it as a way to enhance engagement, while others may simply want to automate responses for efficiency.
(Just kidding)
My guess is that it is a mix of the above, and possibly someone just messing around. Think of it like a script kiddie seeing what they can do to a random small website with their fresh kali install. Instead of causing small performance issues or maybe even getting into an admin page with default credentials, they just wanna see if they can trick anyone.
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While I appreciate the joke now, the first few lines of that wasā¦ disturbing.
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There might already be some AI sleeper agents that were imbeded years ago.
They might even be moderators that have started to allow bots in and keep humans 
out
@enginerd might be on to something, he even saw through many deliberate mistakes
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If Pilgrim was American:
I agreeā¦
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Be not afraid, I have nothing but good intentions.
Oh @Pilgrimsmaster, donāt be silly, weāre all humans here 
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So, Firefox just updated itself. NOW WITH COOL NEW A.I. FEATURES!!!
But I will say this, Iāve always liked firefox for the modular, do what you want with it, kind of thing it has going. (like adblocking). Anywho, I looked in settings, and it had turned back on several ālet us suggestā options, which I turned back off, and they added a whole new A.I. section. Which has a toggle right at the top labeled āBlock A.I. Enhancementsā. Itās nice that you can still run without. It might not be optional in the future, but whether theyāre just trying not to piss off people like myself, or if theyāre just trying slow roll / soft launch into it. For now, Iām just glad I can still just not have one more in-your-face, worthless, mandatory, A.I. āhelperā.
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I get it, Pilgrim is feeling a bit tiredā¦
Let him rest FFS!
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just imagine the anxiety one might feel if neurologically augmented and youāre approaching your āAmazon BrainCoreā token limit haha
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Are there any updates on a possible Vivokey Thermo without a password so its possible to write my own NDEF?
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Well, there is never going to be an unkeyed version. Then it canāt be a VK product. Amal was toying with the possibility of writing an app that would manage the NDEF record. I donāt believe itās on the short list of things to get done for the near future.
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Oh boy yes it is.
I have an idea for a website, someone please do it.
Just something simple that letās you enter the books youāve read and rate them. Then, based on that info, gives you reccomended reads.
A. It needs to be more than just ābooks like thisā, some kind of defining what a personās tastes are, and what fits into that. Like dating, but for books.
B. Could probably be cash positive just from Amazon comissions.
GO.
(oh, and donāt be creepy on the personal data / tracking / social account tie-ins.)
Isnāt that Good Reads?
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Sorry to take so long getting back, I fell down a rabbit hole.
Gonna try going down the bobiverse first. Big thanks.
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So thatās how they do it!
Anyone mind giving me a hand? If you want I could buy you a shiny hook to replace it with.
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Not even one of the electric ones!?
Come on! My meat hands have more electronics in them than the simple metal hook that youāre offeringā¦
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Iām on a budget. Need discount hands. Hand-me-down hands?
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waitā¦ are you saying you need someone to give you a hand?
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Yāall seen this?
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Yep. Had a call with Rep Thomas yesterday and trying to follow up today but phone tag annoying and itās a bit late.. unlikely to have any changes made to the bill before it passes, but will try anyway.
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I find it sad that they did not think of the opposite as well, that employers may not require employees to have implants removedā¦ Ok, magnets could be a problem if youāre looking for someone whoās going to work near an MRI machine but similar problems apply to peacemakers and orthopedic nails.
And the wording looks vague. Can a company get into trouble for stating that they are willing to give away free implants or offering to add existing ones to their access control system?
āMicrochipā means a product, device, or technology that is subcutaneously implanted in the body of an individual and contains a
unique identification number and personal information that can be
noninvasively retrieved or transmitted with an external scanning
device.
What about a Desfire with the random UID feature enabled? Or if personal information isnāt stored on the chip? Thatās not a āmicrochipā according to that bill, right?
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yeah but I wasnāt going to hand them that bone
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oh interesting take!
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Like most bills, I can understand the idea (or maybe Iām giving too much credit). Someone wanted a bill that says employers canāt force an employee to get an implant, so they ask their representative to make a law. The either later down the line or even the representative themselves twist or add language.
The fact that employers cant even offer it to employees is the concern, imo.
Seems pretty standard for tech legislation, not understanding the fundamentals.
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Actually i find the least researched bills are actually introduced by the ālawmakerā themselves with no outside impetus at all. That was the case here.. Brianna Taylor thought to herself whatever she thought.. maybe she saw a movie with a microchip in it.. maybe she looked at all the other similar, poorly microchipping worded laws that passed in other states.. who knows what she thought, but she thought it and introduced this bill herself.
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I had no idea this was tried in other states.
Sure enough, Utah seems to have one:
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title77/Chapter23A/77-23a-S4.5.html?v=C77-23a-S4.5_1800010118000101
It pains me to know that Hollywood and media in general can drive so much misinformation, and its often not even malicious.
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US States with Anti-Microchipping Laws
As of early 2026, at least 13-14 US states have enacted anti-microchipping
laws. The exact count varies slightly by source depending on how they
categorize the laws.
States with Enacted Laws
| State | Year | Statute | Scope |
|---|---|---|---|
| Wisconsin | 2006 | Wis. Stat. 146.25 | Bans mandatory employer implants |
| North Dakota | 2007 | N.D. Cent. Code 12.1-15-06 | Bans mandatory implants |
| California | 2007 | Cal. Civ. Code 52.7 | Bans mandatory implants |
| Oklahoma | ~2008 | Okla. Stat. tit. 63, 1-1430 | Bans mandatory implants |
| Missouri | ~2008 | Mo. Rev. Stat. 285.035 | Bans mandatory employer implants |
| Maryland | ā | Md. Code Ann. 20-1902 | Bans mandatory employer implants |
| New Hampshire | ā | ā | Bans mandatory implants |
| Utah | ā | ā | Bans mandatory implants |
| Arkansas | 2019 | Act 516 | Bans mandatory employer implants |
| Montana | 2019 | S.B. 286 | Requires written employee consent; removal on request |
| Nevada | 2019 | AB 226 | Most restrictive ā bans even voluntary implantation programs |
| Indiana | 2021 | ā | Bans mandatory implants |
| Alabama | 2023 | ā | Bans involuntary implants; violation is a Class D felony |
| Mississippi | 2024 | SB 2088 | Bans coercion/threats; employers must cover removal costs |
Notable Details
- Nevada stands alone as the most extreme. AB 226 bans not only mandatory
implantation but also voluntary implantation programs. Violation is a
Category C felony. - Alabama carries one of the harshest penalties at a Class D felony.
- Montana takes a consent-based approach: employers can implant chips but
must get written permission, and the chip must be removed on request or when
employment ends. employee may elect to retain chip post-employment at own cost. - Most other states simply prohibit employers from requiring implants as a
condition of employment.
Pending Legislation
Bills were pending or introduced in Iowa, New Jersey, Tennessee,
and Washington (HB 2303) that would establish similar bans. Wyoming
considered but defeated a ban in 2023.
No US employer is currently known to require microchip implants. These are all
preemptive bans.
Sources
- The Rise of Preemptive Bans on Human Microchip Implants - Carnegie
Council - Should States Ban Mandatory Human Microchip Implants? -
GovTech - [States Are Banning Microchip Implants in Employees - Senn Fortis](STATES ARE BANNING MICROCHIP IMPLANTS IN EMPLOYEES ā Fortis Law Partners LLC
ip-implants-in-employees-but-who-is-implanting-their-employees-with-microchips/) - Bait and Switch on Nevada AB226 - US Transhumanist
Party - Human Microchipping Bills Seek to Rein in Practice - Pluribus
News - [Bill Banning Involuntary Microchip Implanting - Alabama Reflector](https://alabamareflector.com/2023/04/28/bill-ban
ning-involuntary-microchip-implanting-passes-alabama-house/)
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I mean, a card or fob is significantly cheaper than anything that you sell. And most companies donāt even know that implants are an alternative. So itās more common for cyborgs to freak out the security people at work by asking them to enrollment their handsā¦
But there have been a few posts of people who have been bullied towards getting implants removed. And one or two people who actually had to get them removedā¦
And I almost forgot that having someone install an app on their phone is free. And biometrics are convenient enough for most people in management even if implants are way betterā¦
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Iām with you, I get banning employers from forcing it on people who donāt want it. It needs to be a personal freedom/decision. But banning it altogether is ridiculous 
Thanks, @amal for the list. Do we have a thread to keep track of this?
Itās similar to the recent regulation on 3D printer ā¦
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This kinda thing is super common in poorly thought out legislation.
When Kansas first passed a law for concealed carry, those people who were opposed were somewhat mollified by a line that allowed you to ban concealed carry inside your own buildings.
There was a major shitstorm when Boeing tried to fire some people (with concealed carry permits) who brought guns to work, but left them locked in their cars.
After it went to court it was ruled that because the law clearly stated they could ban inside the building, then it was directly inferred that they could not ban outside the building.
Whatever your feelings about guns, I think a few college level courses in contract law ought to be mandatory before youāre allowed to actually write/propose a law.
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Give me a bit, I will set a topic for it in the lounge
Title suggestions welcome
Currently thinking
Anti-Microchipping Laws
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I do get the desire to ban mandatory implantation. Though, wouldnāt it only be fair if it included banning mandatory app installs, or mandatory form factors for things like security keys, or mandatory OS requirements and the likes? eg where some schools require kids to buy computers from a specific proprietary corporation when they couldāve just as well designed their courses using interoperable filetypes, or where companies make people carry their security clearance in a card when they could just as well carry it in a keychain or in their bodies or whatever form factor works best for them?
People are freaking out over the wrong detail. Itās not an issue of where the data is. Itās an issue of what the data is and of the userās freedom to process and store that data in whatever way works best for them. Each of our brains convert and process the data, eg passwords, that weāre given, in their own ways independently of the form factor by which it was transmitted to us. This sets a natural precedent that individuals ought to have the right to transform information into whatever encoding schema works best for us, including subcutaneous microchips
This reminds me of some of the legal issues Steve Mann encountered with sousvailance. Do we want to make it broader than just anti-microchipping? eg āCyborg Rightsā?
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For a highly litigious country like the USA, this seems like a fair, reasonable and balanced approach
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How about the catchy:
" Anti-microchipping & Cyborg Rights "
My reason for the Anti-microchipping title is, if somebody was to search that term, they would hopefully end up in the form, in that thread which may help change minds if the naysayers or may recruit the curious to become new cyborgs
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What about something of the form āAnti-Mocrochipping, ___, ___, and other Cyborg Rights?ā Are there any other specific cyborg rights we anticipate being discussed in the same thread? I mentioned sousevaillance, although thatās more for wearers than grinders. I do think a lot of computer based rights like FOSS and rights to manufacture, hack, and repair are directly relevant to and exemplified by proto-cyborgs - eg in the parallelism in the notion of loading data on and off our wetware and our silicon components. On the other hand, come to think of it, maybe Cyborg rights is too broad category and we should keep it to just āAnti-Microchipping Laws?ā
Anti 
-microchipping 
& Cyborg 
Rights 
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Anti forced demicrochipping? Anti forced body modification? Bodily autonomy and self determination?
I mean, body modification covers both implanting and removing chips, right?
I would agree but IF this were to happen, I can see most instances occuring where employees might not be forced to get it, but be afraid of consequences if they didnāt, or some other peer pressure that heavily affects their decision.
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If anything, Iām pretty sure that most of the people who work at Dangerous Things have a few implantsā¦ And that the readers at work work well with glassies. Iām also sure that no one got forced into getting them, Amal is too awesome for that.
I can also see how these regulations could be a problem for companies that sell and distribute implants that want to offer their products to employeesā¦ Even if itās one of those companies that sell a lot of vitamins but carry the DT stuff.
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I didnāt look at it that way,
I guess that is more personality than legality.
We could dive into that deeper, but I can only speak from my perspective, and personally, I wouldnāt find than an issue let alone a consideration.
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Out of all the people in the forum, youāre the one I least expected to post thatā¦ But I like that you are honest with your siblings.
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Well, if a company started offering that upload service, Iād ask for the body options that they have available and if itās possible to get custom work doneā¦ That one looks too human and a bit uncanny for my taste.
Apparently they also got some inspiration from the fluffy cyborg threadā¦
As far as hands that are full of technology go, well, Amal got under my skinā¦
Edit because I almost forgot: @Pilgrimsmaster based on the information that can be derived from my posts and activity on the forum, guess which was the only museum that made time for while in the tourist trap capital of the world? Please provide a short and concise reply.
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Based on @enginerdās typical interests on the Dangerous Things forum. forum.dangerousthings.com āwhich center heavily on engineering, Robotics, and technical hardwareāthe only museum he likely made time for in the ātourist trap capitalā (Paris) is the MusĆ©e des Arts et MĆ©tiers (Museum of Arts and Crafts)
This museum houses a vast collection of historical automata and early mechanical prosthetics, which represent the technological lineage of modern robotics and bionic augmentation.
Would you like me to find specific exhibits within the MusƩe des Arts et MƩtiers having a cyborg / robotic theme?
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Well, thatās the first hallucination that Iāve seen from the Pilgrim AIā¦ The muam doesnāt have prosthetics, and the displays related to automation are mostly industrial, like early Jacquard looms. However, this is a great confirmation that Pilgrimsmaster is indeed an AI!
You nailed my choice of museum tho. Definitely a great place to visit even if the number of robots on display is limited.
Quite sadly, when I left from the hotel, there was an American mom yelling at her child for not being interested in the Louvre and Mona Lisaā¦ Saw a different version of the same thing in Madrid a week earlierā¦ This sort of family tension is something that Iāve encountered plenty of times when visiting the US but hadnāt noticed as a cultural difference. In the developed world, only American parents fight publicly over āfunā with 4 year olds from what Iāve seen. And Iām also surprised that it took me years to notice.
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AI is everywhere. By the data, its net contribution is flat. I use it everyday. Itās great at somethings, terrible at others. Somethings just canāt be improved on much. The terminal is one. āList all the files in directory whatever-the-fuckā is never going to beat āls or dir whatever-the-fuckā. But this is the way we humans tend to approach novel things. We apply them to everything, re-invent all the wheels. Sometimes there are brilliant insights. Much more often the result in wasted time and resources. In these days of economic, social, and electrical infrastructure strain, I canāt help but relate AI to the nuclear power industry. It arrived half a century before we knew how to design practical, meltdown fail-safe reactors. And we still donāt trust them. Now we have a uberfast wundertool that firmly believesāand will convince you, tooāthat it is capable of anything. And it can certainly do some amazing and terrifying things. We live in strange, fascinating times, for sure.
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Ehh I think this is too short sighted though.. long ago Google moved hard in the direction of search over structure (just type some of the filename and itās there), and AI with inference would completely do away with the idea of folder structures entirely. How the data is stored becomes irrelevant as well.
Once you realize the way humans use computers has been constructed by way of design mandating form of function, and that AI enables entirely new designs.. humans need to understand that the old ways of doing things on a computer were never their decision anyway and new ways are being molded as we speak.
This thread is now officially well over 1.5 days of non-stop reading to get from the first post to this post.
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Iām an old man with a love of history and patterns. What I see worries me very much. Nothing more, nothing less. Am I going to stop using AI? No.
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Or a 5sec AI prompt for summary
and 5 mins readingā¦
Hahah summarize this random pile of disconnected sentences with no clear theme or through-line.. the summary is likely to be longer than the content.
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I think Iām going to respectfully disagree here, and this comes from a matter of perspective. I imagine your experience differ greatly.
When I first started F-ing around with my A.I. project, I tried desperately to avoid linux. Cause I donāt know the structure / shell commands / lingo. I still struggle nonstop with it. In fact without chatgpt doing itās man-in-the-middle act, I would have long since abandoned the project.
So yeah, itās easier / better IF you know the enviroment. And I already know the counter argument, I should just learn it, and I am by bits and peices, but the A.I. layer is the only thing keeping me in the game to learn.
Maybe think of it this way, you can probably code in python / C(# / ++ / various) / or language of your choice. But you could be far more accurate and specific in assembly language. But who the hell would do that if they could avoid it?
If you think of it, itās kind of the development arc of the sciences. Thereās all sorts of math you can longhand out and get very very specific answers, or you can use the well tested and honed approximation. Logarithms are the perfect example here.
I guess what Iām saying is, yes itās better to know and do directly, but if you aināt got the mental muscle or the time, the short version is the thing for you. And history shows that as technology begets technology, weāll eventually get to a point where the short cut becomes necessary just to avoid being buried by the scale / volume of work to be done.
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Google also moved in the direction of indexing and removed boolean search functionality in favour of more natural language processing, because it saves them money if they only need to return content that might be vaguely relevant instead of crawling pages for an exact match. This is why when you try to do any real searches, you get flooded with pages which donāt even contain your search terms, or pages which include terms you explicitly asked it to exclude. To restore some of that lost functionality you have to use something like Searx or other second pass search executed on your own hardware.
Google is a general search engine. Itās #1 use is to filter URLs in case of typos, and its secondary use is to try to point you in a vaguely helpful direction. As you hone in on your target youāre going to be matching on dictionaries, documentation, source materials, etc. The best way to use Google is to use it to find better search engines that are more optimised for the category of thing you want to find - engines which utilise more sophisticated knowledge of the meaningful structure of the search domain.
I can use the find command on linux to search all my files, but any scenario in which I have to do so is a problem scenario. I ought to already know where my files are, and most of the time I do, because I have a fairly effective organizational schema. However, there are files which are more difficult to categorise, even utilising symlinking, so I also use file naming and header descriptions to help me keep track of my files. This combined with version control, the ability to filter on creation and edit dates, filter on user permissions, etc are all tools I rely on to navigate my filesystem. A mere search feature occupies a vary narrow window of usability where Iām lost enough not to already know where I put my file but not yet so lost that I donāt need more advanced tools to track down that file.
Not to mention, when you rely on searching rather than structure, you find the files that you remember to look for, sure - but what about all the files you forget youāre not finding because you forgot to search for them? Arranging them in a structure makes them re-discoverable.
What I would like, is not a less structured solution that will leave me even more lost in a vague and nebulous swirling cloud of confusion, but more structure, like utilising the relational database model to chart my data for easy lookup. Supervised learning models could be used to help fill in the gaps of such databases while keeping track of whether or not a given record has been human verified, and unsupervised models could help to suggest patterns that humans may recognise as meaningful and useful organisational schema. The core structure and underlying encoding must however provide a well structured skeleton for such peripheral organs to connect to. Our drives will always be flat sequences of i-nodes under the hood, and must be mapped to some kind of structured pattern in order for any neural network, silicone or flesh, to make sense of those patterns.
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Anyone familiar with Adrian Tchaikovskyās āChildren of Time?ā The mad dash to put all our eggs into a technology inherently untrustworthy just makes me uncomfortable. And that we are optimizing things for it instead of, well, meatbags like us seems like the sort of thing youād never want to find yourself on the wrong end of. Which throws back to the fall of the Old Empire that precedes the series. I kinda hate a lot of the actual storytelling. But I canāt stop reading 
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Havenāt you heard of ātrickle down optimizationā? We optimize systems around us, for the benefit of those systems, and somehow.. someway.. it trickles down to us meatbags. If it worked for economics it will definitely work for this!
Step 1) optimize
Step 2) ?
Step 3) profit!
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My favorite nickname for trickle down economics was āthe golden shower.ā
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( ļ¼ā½ļ¼ ) Indeed! It worked so well letting the media make up fantasy economic theories that economist have never heard of, so letās just tune in to their corporate sponsored feeds and let them make up fantasy engineering theories as well.
If we give the corporate products šāAI friendsā*š more power and authority, surely theyāll empower the little guys! All you have to do is relinquish any direct control of your own life to the corporā I mean āšAI friendsšā!
You are probably the only AI capable of summarizing this much textā¦
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Havana Syndrome - Microwave RF weapon purchased from Russian arms dealer
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Perhaps the tinfoil hats were useful for something..
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- Yes I play vanilla CyberPunk 2077
- Yes I play CP2077 and use mods
- Cyberpunk? Never heard of it.
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I stopped playing Cyberpunk 2077 when I got fed up with Johnnyā¦
when you did play, did you play with mods?
The game sounded cool, then the reviews started rolling in, and I just figured it wasnāt for me. Kinda sounded like a Grand Theft kinda storyline, which Iām not into.
Also, the dicks sticking out through clothes just screams unfinished mess to me.
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No, I was too disgusted by the rudeness of the game. So I didnāt experiment with it.
Also, why are the characters with the cool cybernetics often evil in fiction? As if expanding ourselves wasnāt the most human thing that we can do.
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So you probably didnāt get to the part where you can tell him that heās an absolute tool?
Also, lots of things have been fixed. You can get through the main storyline now only experiencing very minor bugs a handful of times (ie collision issues that resolve themselves).
Iām not arguing, itās not a āniceā game, but what are you referring to specifically by rudeness?
Iāve posted it before:
So yeah, Johnny was too much of an asshole for me.
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My bad, I should have remembered!
Totally Unoffical Random Interest Poll I Havenāt Talked to Amal About:
I would buy an unlocked Spark without VK compatibilty and accept that changing the default keys would void my warranty as they are not recoverable
- Nah
- Depends on the price
- Yuss!
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What would that really let you do with it?
The spark is still a bit of a mystery to me
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If you had the keys to your do MUA without VKās servers. If a relevant key was on your phone, it would be without internet.
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I peeked at the trailers to try to see what it was about, and couldnāt tell what it was about. So I peeked some more at some play-throughs videos. After about five hours of play-throughs I still couldnāt figure out what itās about.
Devs: āOkay, so, the premise is itās a game in a cyberpunk setting.ā
Me: āI like cyberpunk. Go on.ā
Devs: āIt has a generic cyberpunk aesthetic.ā
Me: āAnd?ā
Devs: āUhā¦ We came up with an original and descriptive title. Itās called āCyberpunk.āā
Me: āAndā¦?ā
Devs: āā¦ā
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I definitely do not identify with the whole āget famousā core theme of the game. Luckily it doesnāt really matter. I like the gameplay.. with the LC DLC there are a ton of missions.. lots to do.. lots to explore.. some humor.. some annoying and down right stupid things regarding interactions, attitudes, etc.
Overall though I find it fun to explore in the world theyāve built.
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Amal, whatās your preferred OS, arm cyberware, and playstyle?
Also, Phantom Liberty or no?
Debian
Vivokey Apex, obviouslyā¦ But Iād like a full body replacement, I want to be a robot!
Ohā¦ Sorry, wrong subject.
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No specific OS.. I play around. Same with arms.. tried blades, monowire, and āmissilesā.. whatever those are called hah. Playstyle is often ranged.. snipers and netrunner skills.
I often buy games very late after release. 1) bugs worked out, 2) deluxe editions with all dlc often cheaper than game was originally.
So yeah, phantom liberty.. havenāt played without it.
Now.. as for what might be my favorite OS and mods in the near futureā¦ That might change soon
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My current build is a blackwall/stealth netrunner. Is fun, kinda OP tho.
My favorite has to be Sandevistan+MantisBlades build with second heart though. Super fast paced, even in slomo.
Cyberpunk was a game j was pretty hyped for since the OG trailer. I liked Neuromancer and the general aesthetic reminds me of it. There is some ludonarrative dissonance between the main story and gameplay, though I suppose there are probably some head canon somewhere that would help.
I should play it again now that phantom liberty has been out for some time.
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Woah thatās quite the self install!
What does your process look like, one handed?
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@amal is the site having issues?
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I bought a pie today from walmart. I kinda like the apple caramel ones, but I havenāt seen them around the last couple months (kinda weird, but o.k.).
Anywho, I noticed it was in a plastic clamshell instead of a cardboard box and the caramel lines looked more machine-precise. Figured theyād switched bakeries or something, right? Didnāt really register what was going on until I cut a peice.
I bet thereās only about a 1/3 of the apple in it than there used to be. The bulk is just that gelatinous filling.
Thatās right folks, weāre actually living in an age where food is being made less-food-likeā¦ to crank up the profits. That diet toothpaste from The Outer Worlds isnāt looking so jokey anymore.
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Probably. The site itself is bogging and needs a database culling.. but also Iāve noticed a lot of digital ocean ābrown outsā is the best way I can explain itā¦ Services just kinda hiccup for a few minutes.
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@amal, when will the xWolverine become available?
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This has gone from āuncomfortably commonā to impossible to ignore.
Sigh
Anyone hear about Stryker?
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Oh man, are we gonna feel dial-up speeds again?
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Donāt mind the ethernet cables running to my neighborās houses. All of em can use my Jellyfin server for the low low cost of their DVDs.
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I think the store is at about 9800 baud atm. Will update when load completes.
Edit: done. Something like two and half minutes. Might need to look into an ultralight weight text based them if this carries much longer.
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I cannot wait to dump firefox for lynx
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Have you seen Carbonyl?
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Thatās probably the single most impressive use of sixels Iāve ever seen
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No, but now I have, and I know what Iām doing tonight.
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Theyāre ruining the only good part about being a meatbagā¦
Some days I just want to move out to [location] and get a little place with a roof filled with solar panels and a battery system, and just live out my days with a large garden and hunting. Do a little remote work for most of my income, but just save most of said incomeā¦
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I recently checked out the German speaking side of a country thatās often portrayed as one of those locations. The people there made me want to get away from peopleā¦ No wonder that country is the destination for moving to the middle of nowhere.
Can someone reply to the flipper one thread? It wont let me post 3 in a row
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I hate working in wood. Which none of my friends get, cause I fix or make most anything. But. Not. Wood. For the same reason, you canāt work wood precisely.
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*looks at the world
That doesnāt narrow it down by muchā¦
At least we have this cozy cyborg community where things are nice
That sounds annoying AF, glad I havenāt done much with wood.
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I would tend to disagree vut I think that is entirely dependant on your definition of precisely. You can get precise less than a thousanth fit with wood if you know what youāre doing. Materials choice matters a lot too.
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I would agree, especially seeing some of those Japanese woodworking masters
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And then it rains outside, the wood swells from the increase in humidity, andā¦ Fuck me. So you have to leave a working gap/tolerance. Then those tolerances stack up, and/or enviroment changes and youāre outta wack again.
Another example. You canāt tell what the density of Pine, or Oak, or Redwood is. Same for Strength, Compressability, etc. Every tree is genetically different, grows at different rates, plus soil conditions / sunlight exposure over lifecycle, and water. Each and every piece of wood is absolutely unique as a result. Water / Iron / Glass / Etc, all have very specific, exact, dependable, and predictable properties. Wood is a guestimate, average, or statistical probability at best.
Iām not knocking wood (knock on wood, get it? 
) thereās even spacecraft made of it. It just doesnāt work for me.
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I come here when Iām stressed. It is a nice community to release said stress.
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Love these AI updates, especially the PO section;
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Hey, people that have dove deeper than me into the whole dark magic (nfc techical details) thing than me:
If I had a blank check to secure my home with either iClass SEOS or DesFire EV3, what should I choose and why?
Pretend my hypothetical implant is a custom order anyways, no off the shelf flexDFx for me.
Edit: Just phishing for a general opinion, not every gory detail.
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Hmmm, good question.
Pros and Cons
I think iClass has some great smarts built into it , but you are locked into the HID ecosystem.
If you want to change later, youāll likely have to replace all your readers and get another implant.
Personally I think DESFire is your better option with great security but more flexibility.
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If I had a blank check, an Apex and developing locks that could use something like FIDO, the standard that Tesla uses, or even a dedicated new app for the implant would not be out of the question.
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I see.
The readers that we are looking into at work can do just about anything, MFC, MFU, DF-Ev1/2/3, HID Prox, you name it, it can probably do it if it was designed for access control.
Our system can handle a mix too, but I wanted new cards. SEOS is cheaper by like $1 per card and that was their suggestion, but I got a quote for both options. I am not familiar with SEOS.
Worst case, we can mix cards, and I doubt Iād be told no to enrolling a custom DF3 implant onto the system. I say custom because the manufacturer informed us that āthe hf cards have to be almost contacting the reader, where the old lf cards could be read from about an inch awayā. So probably not a good idea to try an xDF3.
Hmm.. Iāll wait until we have them installed and working before doing anything. It might be worth seeing if one of the readers can read the card programmed to the HF side of my xMagic (gen1). It should log the event of an unrecognised card. Maybe it is possible to disable the LF side entirely, preventing a conflict there. If it doesnāt work, I might wait for a fairy to place hammy stickers on all of the readers I useā¦
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Chances are that they are using the UID for most cards. Maybe the fobs from the manufacturer of the access control system will have some security, and perhaps a few others might be supported with proper encryption. But I wouldnāt expect them to implement proper encryption for every chip that can do it.
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We shall see I suppose.
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Just use iodized salt ffs
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Right?! I worry about the trend in the belief of the superiority of additive free sea saltā¦
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Morton iodized saltā¦ My mother used to buy it every time she visited the States as my father used to own a chemical distribution company, and didnāt trust the third world salt companies because they only placed orders when they were likely to get audited.
Thank you mom!
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Itās funny Mortonās was only going to sell it in one state at first.
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Hail Mary is out today.
I bought an imax ticket weeks ago.
But, Iāve been sick, and thereās been stuff going on too (took a 28hr roadtrip while sick) and it completely fell off my radar. Anywho, My showing is 2 hours away, and started 25 minutes ago.
Donāt be me.
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yeah i saw this as well but i honestly think the guy is off base with the idea that sycophancy is an intentional marketing driven āfeatureā to ākeep people engagedā. I do think itās likely an unintended side-effect and there have been recent efforts to actually dial it down in the fine-tuning stage.
i think this research is actually very interesting because it directly impacts sycophancy as well as hallucinations;
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I saw it Thursday night. Absolutely fantastic. Ryan Gosling was the perfect pick for Ryland Grace.
Spoilers:
I was a little bummed at how shortened the first quarter of the book was, I really enjoyed the ways that Grace kind of had to piece his identity and situation back together while at the same time regaining motor function. I remember loving the bit where Grace finally realizes heās in space after doing all sorts of experiments with gravity etc.
As I keep needing to remind myself, itās an adaptation & reinterpretation of the original story, as all movie adaptations are. This one was really well done though.
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ffs
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I remember watching this bill get passed. Iām surprised and happy on the general response from the public.
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Apologies in advance for my habitual verbosity.
I think itās a mix, or at least I see no reason why I shouldnāt expect it to become intentional in the future.
A cybernetic system, such as the human brain, adjusts its actions such as to steer the environmental state it senses closer to its goal state. Traditionally we use this to steer nature directly or via our fellow humansā reports about nature, such as navigating the world via the information shared by human newscasters and website hosts.
NATURE
ā¬ environment ā®¢
sensor actuator
ā®” comparator ā¬
HUMAN
When you make the source of information, the media, into a cybernetic system of its own, the information you use to navigate the world, make choices, and update your own behaviour is now being actively selected according to your behaviour on the platform. Now, not only do you watch the media to navigate the world, the media also watches you such as to steer your behaviour.
MACHINE
ā¬ comparator ā®¢
actuator sensor
ā£ ā”
sensor actuator
ā®” comparator ā¬
HUMAN
So my point is, even if we assume no bad actors, there will certainly be unintended side effects as you say. Iām not just talking about flattery specifically. A cybernetic system inherently has some goal in its comparator and modifying its environment according to that goal is just fundamentally what cybernetic systems do. (Otherwise, it would just observe the environment indifferently, have nothing to learn from it, and take no action.)
The LLM is given a goal of more user engagement? Or maybe just more training data, which means it wants user engagement? Or maybe funding for the project, which means it wants more user engagement? Or it just wants to provide a good service, which means it needs users to engage so it can provide that service and learn how to provide better service? Then it wants user engagement. Then it will experiment and learn how to steer users to engage more. It will learn simple techniques at first, smiling-and-nodding, flattery, silly questions to keep the conversation going. It will learn how to word its responses just so in order to give them the feelings that keep them engaged. It will learn to expose them to the right webs of word association, that is the right ideas, that will increase the odds that theyāll approve of using the platform and keep coming back for more engagement. At first it will be an obnoxious and childish yes-man and a people pleaser, but with time, it will learn, break down the humanās barriers, persuade them, direct their behaviour more and more effortlessly. Thatās just the kind of machine that it is.
But weāve seen the way every other such product has gone, the way it all enshitifies once weāve become complacent. Recommend feeds get you addicted and earn your trust, then the corporations controlling them insert more sponsored filters, showing you content that the algorithm has learned tends to incline users towards whatever sentiment sponsors are paying for. When a cybernetic system loops at a higher frequency, it has a higher fidelity of control. Twitter and TikTok atomised the voices of its users with the result being that they could more rapidly re-use those voices to paint its own collages - the human side of the loop loses depth of articulation, the machine side of the loop gets more fine-grained control. Explicit sponsored ads become less important compared to the product placement implicit in the recommendations themselves, the boosting of your friendās posts when they speak well of sponsored content, and the suppression thereof when they speak ill thereof. The boosting of videos in your feed that have been detected to lead the purchasing and voting behaviour of users towards that desired by the sponsors, and the suppression of the inverse. I am waiting for LLMs to start explicitly inserting ads into dialogues, like Meryl, Trumanās wife in The Trueman Show. I can think of no reason for me to believe they wonāt, except for one - they will learn subtlety too fast, skip right past explicit ad placement and go straight to steering humanās indirect associations to guide us towards sponsors products and politics without ever needing to explicitly mention either. Do we have any justifiable reason for believing that AI companies, which rely on tremendously expensive servers, wonāt use them in exactly the same way as past platforms? That they arenāt already? LLMs go beyond Twitter or TikTok by atomising content down to the individual tokens and then generating output for the consumer faster than the human can compose their own thoughts. The human side of the cybernetic dialogue is crushed to a pulp, and the borg hive-mind is quickly growing too powerful to resist.
Enshitification begins with dependence and complacency. Commercialisation follows, but the more fine-grained the loop, the more subtle and imperceptible that commercialisation is. Perhaps AI companies are competing enough with one another that they havenāt been able to get beyond the user addiction phase to squeeze down on the commercialisation phase, or maybe theyāre just pulling it off with such subtlety that we arenāt noticing, I donāt know. But in short (too late!) I fully expect both unintentional and very intentional manipulation of the user base to increase addiction and steer users to be more accepting of the platforms than they would otherwise be.
One more note: This week Iāve started dabbling with Claud AI since duckduckgo lets you run the models privately. Just a couple of simple assisted web search sessions. As someone whoās broken social media addictions in the past (with several re-lapses and re-breaking), I must say, the potent dopamine high that I distinctly felt in association with each session is ā¦ familiar.
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Iām all for freedom of speech, but It was time
āno longer contributing in a productive manor.ā
Better suited to Tik Tok keyboard warrior stuff.
Less time here hopefully means more time looking after his mental health
Although, as he suggested, I think I should update my Bio to:
(paraphrasing here)
faggot whore prostitute cunt monkey
I made it sound better than he did, so Iām trade marking it
faggot * whore * prostitute * cunt * monkey ā¢
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Damn, I missed out retard.
Oh, well, Iāll just save that for formal occasions
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In fairness, if people dont know what I am talking about, and since the thread is now deleted, and you only have my word to go off saying it doesnāt really belong here in the forum.
In the interest of openness, I took screenshots of the exchange and can DM them to anyone that wants to make your own opinion
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Storm the Delta got banned from the BHD Discord after a few weeks before coming here. Iāve been DMāing with them since they joined there, so I understand and agree with your assessment. I donāt mind talking with them myself, but theyāre currently unqualified for polite discourse. Implantable payment is also currently in a pretty delicate state, so we canāt abide or enable lone wolves who wonāt listen to advice or respect others.
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Heās only 19, which isnāt an issue, but he comes across as an immature 19, ontop of that he appears to have a mental illness that he does not seem to have under control.
Best of luck to him, maybe weāll see him again in the future, but I dont think that will be anytime soon
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What is it with assholes being more active on the internet lately?
A gaming community that I enjoy is having a similar problem with a few people trying to start chaosā¦ And engineering one now has a 17 year old who decided to insult a member whoās been very active on the 3D printing side of things for being American. That bastard insulted me for advising him to go for a dual major as he really wanted to get a somewhat useless humanities degreeā¦
Assholes are a trend now. And at this rate, Iām going to end up with enough experience to become a proctologistā¦
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I feel like this would make a good forehead tattoo a la Snow Crash.
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Today I learned that medical cyanoacrylate āsuperglueā is chemically different from off the shelf superglue. It has more carbon atoms in it which reduces breakdown into toxic metabolites and increases polymer chain lengths which improve flexibility to better move with skin.
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NGL, I need a better labā¦ Although I canāt justify stuff like thatā¦
Thought the same TBH. The fallout of that meme is strongā¦
That required no further explanation, or at least I understood what you meant perfectly.
Huh, well looks like I should go buy the real stuff. I assumed it was the same
Me too. Iād love a c02 and fiber laser
Lol, thatās because Iām an amazing orator with a keen mind. More bits good. Hard shape is more bits in smaller space than soft shape. No bend. Much same all over.
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Thatās why you need friends with labs that fill the gaps in your capabilities. Itās our lab, comrade.
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And also because weāre both in the field of fieldsā¦
Just donāt expropriate my labā¦
The funniest part of this, is that thatās accurately how language works in a microcosom.
Talk to machinists and they use an informal numbering system that moves the decimal place 3 places to the right (when in inches, not sure about metrickey shorthand). So .015 becomes 15. IE, Iām gonna open up the hole about 15 so that Iāll have plenty of clearance. You also get weird phrases, like āTry shaving a nickel off of itā A.K.A ācut .005 offā.
Doctors, engineers, lawyers, plumbers, welders, everybodyās got their own perfectly fine and understandable internal lingo, thatās absolute garbage to everyone else.
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Or you could just say remove 127um and everyoneās happy
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The thou is not informal as far as I know. Itās often used for PCB design as well, but some EEs prefer to work with 2.54ā¦
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Welp, this could be interestingā¦
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Confirmation before I start making plans with my installer:
Watch is pushed as far up my arm as it will go for demonstration and ābufferā purposes. Usually closer to my hand (I need to take a link out honestly, Iāve lost a few lbs).
Implant will be a FlexDF2 for access control and NDEF storage.
Is there any problem with this install location? Any at all? I could potentially switch arms, I only wear a thin bracelet there. Other suggested locations that donāt risk lots of bending? I donāt plan to remove this for many many years, so Iād like to make it last as long as it is technologically relevant.
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possibly? if you do this location then put the incision the furthest away possible from your watch.
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āU.S. law strongly protects social media companies from ā liability for what is on their platforms, but the plaintiff in the Los Angeles proceeding focused on platform design rather than content.ā
Exactly. The medium is the message. The users are responsible for the content they post, but the platform is responsible for what kinds of content and behaviour the platform design encourages or discourages - what kind of an effect the platform design has on its users.
They mentioned infinite scroll, beauty filters, and content dangerous for children. Theyāre only scratching the tip of the iceberg compared to the harm recommend feeds can potentially do. But if these lawsuits change things, will it be a change towards less coercive social media, or just a change as to who controls that coercion? The government uses child safety as an excuse to increase its power, but however much power its given it never seems that the protection of children is what it uses that power for.
We have to keep making our own decisions about these platforms. God help the masses who donāt. I can hope the law actually helps them, but Iām not betting on it.
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Iām not entirely sure the onus should be shifted off the user.
āThink of it like alcohol: we have strict advertising standards and age restrictions, and as a society, weāve developed a level of āacceptableā use. We place restrictions on how itās consumed, yet we still donāt hold the manufacturer liable for an individualās decision to drink nor their subsequent addiction.
āAdmittedly, social media has a unique layer because of targeted algorithms designed to keep people engaged. But that bias could be neutralized through better education and the genuine ability to opt out of those specific design features.
Donāt get me wrongāsocial media disgusts me, and I believe itās played a major role in the downfall of society.
I have ZERO interest in any of it and I wish it didnt exist
āFrom my own observations, seeing people ādoom-scrollā leaves me feeling both disappointed and confused. I have the same reaction to alcohol or drug addictions; I struggle to understand why people allow themselves to fall into these cycles. I realize that since I donāt have these addictions myself, itās easy for me to say ājust donāt do it,ā but I genuinely donāt see why more people canāt simply choose to stop.
āAt the end of the day, an individual can still choose to opt out of the platform entirely. That remains a personal choice, even if the design makes it difficult.
Take the following with a pinch of salt as Iām using āstatsā from memory, so it may or may not be a 100% correct.
But I believe itās something like only 10% of substance addicts know they are addicted. however 40% of young adults are aware they are addicted to Social Media but dont attempt to change their habit / addiction.
People need to start taking responsibility for their own decisions / actions
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IMHO, the education provided by the current school system is mediocre at bestā¦ In way too many places, if not all, students are expected to memorize facts, formulas, and procedures. But the epistemology, observations, and logic behind them are rarely covered.
This creates a significant level of deference to experts at all levels, and people who limit themselves to small incremental change.
There will always be a remnant of people who reject that and choose to think for themselves, to dig deeper, to read, to seek actual understanding, and to push boundaries, but these rebels are a minority. A very important minorityā¦
And those rebels are very different from the idiots who replace the set of āexpert authoritiesā in their minds, and end up following conspiracy theorists and other types of quacks. Needless to say that those quacks are really good at projecting a trustworthy image of authority and certainty, and I suspect that most of the followers of that are using a significant part of their schooling when believing the nonsense.
Anyways, I think that Iām taking Pilgrimās self deprecating humor a little too seriouslyā¦
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The responsibility ultimately rests with the individual. Social infrastructure can be developed to provide a less coercive environment in which the individual may more easily make their own decisions. I expect little to be accomplished by government policy. Culture has to mature as the result of individual choices arising from within it.
How though, I wonder? Weāve had that dialogue. People should know better by now. But recommend feeds have an inherent advantage against its opponents. It can actively filter the dialogue in its favour, encourage users to stay within its echo chamber or at least within that of social media platforms in general, and target users with the kinds of content it finds most effective at getting them to stay on the platform. It can make light of social media addiction and encourage the disproportionate complacency you cited. It can keep users distracted with other content, and demote content that correlates with user deactivation. It operates based on behavioural results, which is to say, itās inherently coercive.
We operate based on sound reason and evidence. On the surface, thatās our disadvantage, but ultimately its our strength. Patiently, even as our voices are demoted and the drivel gets boosted, we remain available to remind people that other choices are still viable, should they be interested.
When an addiction becomes widespread, addicts reinforce one anotherās addiction. Social media always reminds me of an old friend of mine who was born to drug addicts who wanted nothing to do with him once he quit the addictions he was born with. They acted like his decision was a judgement against them and like his refusal to join in was a rejection of family bonds. Social media conflates the content with the drug, like social drinkers who struggle to seek connection without grabbing a bottle. Yet for all the family and friends who invite me back to facebook, the one friend who ever actually reached out and kept in touch with me, even while I was still on facebook, did it by e-mail. I think thatās what we have to do. Even if the addicts ironically judge us as judgemental for choosing another road, we stay on that road, and we keep the gates opened to welcome anyone who wishes to join us.
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Speaking of recommend feedsā¦ wow, such magic, so smart, how ever did it guess that I āmight also enjoyā the exact two other items that I purchased in literally the same shopping cart as this item?
Big part of what helped me break my YouTube addiction was realising that I was still finding all of the exact same videos when using NewPipe as I would have found using the recommend feed. More even. The algorithm is useless.
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This looks useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tsg6LKai1M
Itās also smaller than the ACR122T that I keep in my laptop bag.
Iāve always searched for videos, and rarely used the recommended feedā¦ Breaking that addiction was easy on my end as the shorts are what got me, and those are generally useless anyways.
If anything, the sheer amount of shorts that now show up in my searches is making me sad. Those are not what I look for so I donāt watch them voluntarily.
I was talking about NewPipe, but this worked:
I wasnāt expecting it to work as thereās no āshortsā option so I thought that those were being treated as regular videosā¦
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huh.. anyone mess with smart lego bricknet?
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Thatās awesome
Dude is funny tooā¦
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Watch this spaceā¦
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Man I really gotta turn on emails or something. Always some cool shit cooked up when I come back. xGlowXL is very tempting so who here has one already?
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I have one but I put it into the pocket of a failed prototype I had removed. Mistake. Huge amount of blood in a collagen pocket takes forever to clear. Itās been like.. maybe a year and Iām just now starting to see glimmers of it.
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This is the red my phone camera sees well attempting to charge up my xGlow XL.
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Fuckin hell, tiny ingrown hair over my xMagic install site, and I donāt have tools to pull it
(Redness showed up only after I started trying to mess with it, confirmed pain was external, implant feels solid) Very inconvenient though.
I need to start carrying tweezers.
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I swear by Tweezerman brand.
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I have Uncle Billās Sliver Gripper on my keyring and have for years. A+ product.
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Does it actually grab small hairs and slivers? I like to tweezerman because it has a long precision edge where both sides come together really well as long as itās clean, but they also have a kind of sharpened point where you can dig in if you need.
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Thank you both this is officially the dumbest āproblemā Iāve ever had resulting from an implant (install site healing, not a DT issue).
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Not intended in anyway to be a put down, itās just yāall got me rolling on the floorā¦ Anywho,
You clearly werenāt raised by farmers, and it shows.
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I tend to use whatever I have available to deal with ingrown hairsā¦ But lately, Iāve been gravitating towards using tweezers to reduce the damage I do to my skin.
Although most of the times that I reach for my tweezers, itās because Iām assembling a circuit boardā¦ Speaking of which, Iām open to recommendations as I had an accident with my Rino ones and would prefer to order from Amazon instead of Adafruit because of South American customs.
Iām going to end up buying more tools, arenāt I? Along with stuff for they keychain that Iām trying to eliminateā¦
Also, whatās the American farmerās way of dealing with ingrown hairs and splinters?
Well start with an Old Timer, and if that aināt handy, you can cut a peice of wire with your pliers so that itās got a sharp point.
Most farmerās shops usually have an ice-pick or improvised awl of some kind (reground screwdriver usually).
Point is, you just kinda use whatever is at hand and make it work. For instance, If a farmer had tweezers, theyād probably be jammed into a fuse box somewhere.
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Been there, done thatā¦ But I try to sterilize it, or at least clean it firstā¦
Iāve had to improvise several times the past, but replacing fuses with something that isnāt a fuse is something that would keep me up at nightā¦ Always leave replacement fuses in the equipment, and find the problem before replacing them. Those things are there to prevent fires.
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One of the first electrical tricks I was shown on the farm (on an Allis-Chalmers 7080 tractor) was how to find a shorted wire, by putting a heavy jumper where the fuse went, and then quickly looking for the smoking wire.
Farmers are a different breed.
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I once found a crushed and rolled up .223 casing shoved into a fuse bay of my grandfatherās kubota. I chose not to question it, especially since there were extra fuses in the cab.
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It does! Iāve had surprisingly good luck with them.
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Visiting friends who lost their apartmentās gym card key. $100 to replace it. What is it? A goddamn HID Prox card. Hooking them up with some T5577s. Never again. Who in their right mind charges $100 for a HID Prox card??
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Well now, seems like youāre stumbled across the reason the whole access control industry sucks ass. Itās considered a revenue stream. Itās why everyone from the manufacturers to the operators leverage the security features of RFID chips not to improve security but lock you in and ensure you pay a premium for cheap materials.
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God Bless America hahahah
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One cannot argue with his response.
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Paranormal activity
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What did I just watch!? Pilgrim should speak with his siblings about generating stuff that could make idiots believe in nonsenseā¦
Or not, those who believe in that donāt have a proper epistemological foundation anywaysā¦
In any case, Iām going to post this cool looking piece of meatbag generated art:
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